Question:
Question for Palestinians and ever apologetic Western World?
anonymous
2007-02-26 01:07:54 UTC
Western World: When will you stop going on guilty trip and state clearly that Palestinians have no case?
Palestinians: When will you throw your begging bowl away and try to earn a honest living?
Details: Please Read Carefully.
1.World is ruled by powerful and weak had to lump it. It is true since ancient times.
2.The State of Israel was created in 1948 on what is called Palestinian lands.
The area was semi desert where land was valued at less than 100 dollars an acre.
The number of people evicted run into few tens of thousands and land taken for creation of Israel is valued at less than 100 million dollors. Aids and grants given by western world to Palestinian authority till date runs in to Billions of Dollars.
3.Take the case of Turkey. It has taken over large tracts of Greek lands through
Military conquests.
4.Huge tracts of lands and properties of Hindus are usurped in Pakistan and Bangladesh and it is ongoing even today. In 1947 India was partitioned into India and Pakistan. Hindus made 37% of population of Newly born Pakistan. At present
Hindus account for less than 1% of Pakistani population and 7% of Bangladesh population whereas in 1947 Muslims constituted 4% of Indian population now it is more than 14%
5.Germany lost Silesia to France after 2nd world war.We do not see any German going around claiming refugee status.So is the case with Hindus,Greeks and Others who have lost lands and properties to Muslims.
Please state when will Muslims stop their Hypocrisy and face Reality that you have no case in Palestine.
Sixteen answers:
anonymous
2007-02-26 01:19:14 UTC
every thing you said simply and clearly show that you are ......



The Palestinians will never give up their cause I can't but it simpler than this.



As for your looking at the matter of how much is the land or how few were displaced simply show that you are a real estate agent not more.



God bless
Hafiz
2007-02-26 08:05:27 UTC
I can see that you have faulted on almost all the 'facts' and 'data' supplied by you. These are evident by the respondents disputing them here.



As the adage goes: 'Half knowledge is too dangerous' that is what one can conclude from reading this question.



I am really surprised with the 'facts' and wordings of the sentence like "Huge tracts of lands and properties of Hindus are usurped in Pakistan and Bangladesh and it is ongoing even today". It seems that the law of the land is not working in Pakistan and Bangladesh and it is only India where there is no such disputes and the Indian Hindus are always the 'victims' at the hands of Muslims, and also that there is no Hindu legal attorneys (lawyers) to file cases against such land grabbers.



The fact is, might-is-right in some rural areas of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh where the local musclemen would grab the lands and properties of weaker people, be that Hindu, Muslim, Christian or Buddhist. The religious element does play a role in every country where the civil and criminal laws are not acted upon strictly. India is not an exception here.



This is really stupid assumption that "Hindus made 37% of population of newly born Pakistan (prior to partition in 1947)" and "whereas in 1947 Muslims constituted 4% of Indian population". What are the source(s) of these statistics?



It seems that the Asker doesn't know how and why in 1947 the Hindus living in Pakistan opted to migrate to India and Muslims living in India opted to migrate Pakistan and Bangladesh.



For arguments sake if we take the premise of the Asker that the "Palestinians have no case", then will it also justify the occupation of Kashmir by India and Pakistan respectively are final and that Kashmiris have no case too?



Who knows, if India is disintegrated like the Soviet Union (may be not through bloodbath) the Kashmir and such smaller states which were forcibly occupied by India may declare their own independence like Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and such small states which were independent countries before the Soviet's takeover?



I have seen that the Indians, Hindus in particular, have started flexing their religious muscles when the Muslims have been targeted after the 9/11, Madrid and 7/7 unfortunate incidents.



Please promote your own religion and there is no harm in it, but not at the cost of undermining other religion, particularly Islam, just to enlist support (whatever you can gather) in this troubled water.



Next time hopefully you may do more homework and set your records straight. Also please do not try to spread hatreds among believers of 'book' (The holy Qur’an, Bible and Torah).



This may be news for you that Islam, Christian and Jews have many common historical and religious similarities. But again look at any religion, factional infighting is always there and this may not be construed as 'cut-throat' division among them.



PS. Please take note that worshipping of idol (image of a deity etc.) is banned in above mentioned three leading religions. So, chances are slim that you will be taken into their fold easily by trying to please Anti-Muslims of present day world.
NaturalBornKieler
2007-02-26 01:34:58 UTC
When I read #5 of your points I definitely know (since I am a German) that you mixed up your facts, to put it mildly (Germany lost Silesia and other territories not to France but to Poland). And I can assure you that we have large groups in Germany claiming the status of "displaced" ("Vertriebene") still today, even though they were compensated by the government and are integrated now.



I assume that you misrepresented the facts in the other statements as well.



Please note that driving out people of their land is a severe crime, committed throughout all history. After a generation or more, however, it is virtually impossible to restore the status quo ante without creating even more injustice. That's why these cases are such a challenge to politics. Anyone who thinks it's easy is deluding himself.
vishw_paramaatmaa_parivaar
2007-03-05 18:16:52 UTC
For good reason or bad, unity (physical) wins physically, this is nature's rule. The winners know this rule very well, others don't. Therefore the loosers should verify what is United Nations' outer and inner reality. If it's purpose is not Godly and divine in favour of justice, than they should form other real union for justice and strengthen. They should know, what do U.N.O. and summit commit and vomit? They can't wait for winners to stop. India didn't wait for British to stop. Now the situation is same but globally. A genuine global union should pass a resolution about population globally. "Vishwa Paramaatmaa Parivaar Dharma" must be an union, by it's meaning, not by wordily heading, which is, "world of genuine justice's family for aim of justice".

"Vishwa": The world.

"Paramaatmaa": The divine (Godly) justice.

"Parivaar": Family.

"Dharma" Aim, commitment and genuine heartily effort.
anonymous
2007-03-02 10:01:15 UTC
in past history mu slimes always want to remain dominant everywhere but time to time Hindu Rajah' Sikender Hitler & so many others overcomes them anyhow but still there desier to become dominent allover is not fulfilled;as politicaly & strenthwise they are less powerful they choose the way of terrorism ;suicidal atackes etc.Once world has two superpower at that time muslimes were not so prominent.as know the super power is 'presumed' to be one they all feel free to play there game .once all world including Muslimes want to getridd of terrorism this will the day when hipocrasy of Muslimes(terrorist) get end & this is only possible when all world leader wants there public safe ;all countery leader has to get off there EGOES;has to face some dedication;some loss some benifit right of equality to each other no one feel him super power & show his supremacy over others ;all has to recosnised each reliegions as there own in all this each counterirs public must understand otheres not infeirior/superior once this dream become tru(very very deficult) all problemes will solved . BUT I KNOW AT LEAST THIS WILL NOT OCCUR IN MY REMAING LIFE Here all men should pray for 'SHANTI' BUT IN THIS COMPETITIVE WORLD;it is as hard as to extract water from rock; good luck to all world's public.OH!GOD HELP US'
anonymous
2007-03-02 06:57:04 UTC
Christ complex (also superiority complex) is a psychological term used loosely to describe any individual mentally fixed on superiority or the claim of being a savior. There are many types of disorders in which the Christ complex comes into play. The extreme example is a psychopath: Someone who comes to operate without any regard for other humans.



This term is used by psychologists in referring also to people who feel a compulsion to try to save other human beings. i.e. attracted to single women with children who have been abused or distressed in an attempt to "save" them from their current lifestyle.
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2016-10-02 04:20:41 UTC
it form of feels that Palestinians are in a capture 22 subject. Its going to take God to straighten issues out. Hamas will in no way understand Israel. they are too ignorant to do the main stunning ingredient. they are blinded by utilising hate and a faux faith. I Cr 13;8 10-5-6
anonymous
2007-02-27 17:51:34 UTC
Arab Countries invaded Israel and now they want to feel others guilty about it.If Arabs had won the wars,I do not think they had given even a inch back.Hamas and Iran are still committed to destroy Israel.
Lawrence of Arabia
2007-02-26 01:31:33 UTC
Israel is lasting till Judgment day, so says the Quran and Sunnah. All Arabs must do is try to resolve it peacefully.. Try to change themselves. The matter is not Israel, it is war againt humanity.. whoever the party is. The soldier that kills a baby or a civilian is a terrorist.
marsh man
2007-02-26 01:31:03 UTC
To divide into two, from a single cell to atoms, is the law of nature.



Let MAN unite.



The founders of religions never wished to brake but to bake for the other.
By Any Means Necessary
2007-02-26 01:12:48 UTC
So you're saying the only way to get the land back is going to war with Isreal?
guraqt2me
2007-02-26 01:12:43 UTC
This is a political query not a religion and spirituality question.



Post this one in the cooking and baking section !!!
j.wisdom
2007-03-05 18:57:02 UTC
Asked and answered. From your point of view.
anonymous
2007-02-26 01:12:57 UTC
Never.

p.s. your question/statement should be in the geopolitic section.
mystery woman
2007-03-06 00:51:30 UTC
Please state when will you stop your Hypocrisy and face Reality that you have no case?
?
2007-02-26 01:14:35 UTC
Tell me, in your heart, do you really think this question will better the world? Your grasp of the Israeli Palestinian situation shows that, although you can parrot facts, you do not know the truth of the situation. But you are not unique in this. Most of the world believes the Zionist propaganda in the mainstream media. I cannot comment on most of your "facts" but I can comment on your blatantly biased and incorrect assessment of the situation in Palestine.



It seems to me you see things only from the perspective of the past few years. You know not the history here. Perhaps it is time you learned. Every war for the past few centuries has been contrived between the Illuminati, the Vatican, and Illuminati led governments. This is fact, not fallacy.



Israeli prime ministers were, and continue to be, notorious terrorists. The first Prime Minister David Ben Gurion established the Israeli state on the total destruction and obliteration of at least 500 Palestinian towns and villages. Menachem Begin commanded the terrorist organization Irgun. Begin’s Irgun committed many terrorist attacks against Palestinian and British civilians, that led Ben Gurion to refer to the Irgun as "Jewish Nazis" and compared Begin to Hitler. He would know his facts! Yitzhak Shamir masterminded the murder of hundreds of Palestinian and British civilians.



Rabin ordered his soldiers to break the bones of Palestinian youngsters’ during the Intifada. Ehud Barak orchestrated the assassination of three Palestinian leaders in Lebanon in 1970. Ariel Sharon, hailed as "king of Israel", was the most notorious butcher of all. His career is filled with massacres of Palestinian, Egyptian, and Lebanese civilians.





Israeli soldiers, snipers, and tower guards make a game of shooting Palestinian civilians. Thousands of Palestinian children have been shot in the head and chest for playing soccer in the wrong place. Many of these atrocities have been reported by the media. Palestinian children are murdered in their own houses, playing in front of their homes, and even in class rooms. They systematically target medical ambulances killing the sick, the wounded and even doctors. They routinely raid Palestinian hospitals and kidnap wounded Palestinians from the operating tables.



Contrary to the Zionist propaganda, Israeli soldiers behave like barbarians and common thieves. This situation creates a climate of hatred and unrest throughout the Muslim world as the Illuminati intend it to. They savagely kick the people out of their homes without a chance to collect their belongings. They smash furniture, steal electrical and electronic equipment, steal any money and jewelry they find before demolishing the home while families watch with broken hearts. Women and girls are raped routinely. Israeli soldiers have broken into Palestinians banks, loaded all Palestinian money on their military truck, and then driven away after assassinating all in sight.



The government has adopted a campaign of hatred against all Muslims and Arabs. This campaign starts in grade schools to foster racism, arrogance and hatred. This hatred is manifested in the aggression of settlers and soldiers. Israeli settlers also participate in a campaign of terror against the Palestinians.



Amnesty International reports that Israeli security forces and settlers perpetrate abuses against Palestinians without fear of reprisal. Protected by Israeli soldiers, settlers routinely attack Palestinian farmers, rob or burn their crops, cut their trees, poison their livestock, shoot their animals, and demolish their farm shacks. They dump their sewage water at Palestinian cities in a germ warfare to spread diseases. None of these settlers has been brought to justice but, when a Palestinian is merely suspected of attempting to protect his family and his land, he is brought to Israeli courts to be harshly and unjustly sentenced.



Israeli state terror tactics against Palestinians constitute a premeditative genocide. Since 1948 Zionists have robbed more than half of Palestine and established the state of Israel. After their 1967 aggression war, they occupied the rest of Palestine. Palestinians have been under Israeli occupation for the last 58 years; the longest military occupation in history.



Israel is driven by a terrorist, racist, and fake fundamental religious ideology of "god’s chosen people in god’s Promised Land". Even before establishing the state of Israel, all Israeli leaders, without exception, had been calling for the preservation of the pure Jewish blood in a Jewish only state, a twin ideology of the Nazi’s pure superior Arian blood. Circumstance? I think not!

Arafat was once described by Communist Romanian Intelligence as "so much cleverness, blood, and filth all together in one man".



This is probably an accurate description of Arafat, and so it fits that he would become a willing tool of the Illuminati, who fit this description perfectly in their heart of hearts. Since there is never any "honor among thieves", I would imagine that the Illuminati murdered Arafat as soon as they were finished with him. The people he led never knew he was not even Muslim or Palestinian!



Arafat and the various Israeli Prime Ministers who dealt with him over the Oslo Accord were simply playing out the role assigned them by the Illuminati. The PLO recognized the State of Israel in 1992 and the Oslo Peace Accord established a Palestinian state on only 22% of historical Palestine. Israel never recognized Palestinians’ rights to live as a free nation in their own independent state, nor recognized the right of expelled Palestinian refugees to return to their own land as mandated by UN Resolution 194.



Israel is not interested in peaceful agreement with its neighbors. They have rejected all peaceful solutions offered by UN resolutions, Palestinian agreements, Arab peaceful initiatives, and Western intermediary proposals. Israel has offered no peace initiative other than unilateral redeployments, threatening promises, and more colonial expansion.



Israel’s state terrorism is condoned by US & EU governments. while Palestinian self-defense against Israel’s illegal occupation and any retaliation to Israeli terror attacks are exaggerated and condemned as "terrorism". All Israeli crimes are described as self-defense and war against terror, while Palestinians are portrayed as suicide bombers, baby killers, and terrorists. Even a child shot while playing soccer is portrayed as “a possible terrorist”.



The big myth about the Zionist Israeli state is that it is a democracy. The truth of the matter is that Israel is a theocratic terroracracy driven by dangerous apocalyptic religious beliefs of "god’s chosen people in god’s promised land". These men are Illuminati and have a script to follow.



We cannot understand the world until we appreciate that most leaders are traitors and that mankind is victim of a diabolical conspiracy on an unspeakable scale. It's time we stopped taking sides and addressed the real enemy.



ps. I know this will garner me a ton of thumbs down, but if that is the “price” I pay for helping, so be it. I do not spend time writing this stuff for fun, I do it because I care about the fate of humanity. I come from genuine love and concern. Not to mention a healthy dose of fear. Fear, because our governments are the real terrorists.


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