Why do theists claim that there is scientific evidence for the existence of a God?

Question

Theists,
If there is so much scientific evidence supporting the existence of a god, as some of you say, then why is it that there is no scientific theory supporting the claim?

Answer 1

It has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. It has to do with a moral predisposition.

Some of the most intelligent men in the world are convinced by everything they encounter in their scientific discoveries that it screams for evidence of the existence of a supreme intelligence that oversees the workings of the Universe.



Others insist that to presuppose the existence of a God is inherently unscientific - a position that they can not scientifically prove.

That is highly unreasonable, and great folly.

Answer 2

There are many types of scientific evidence supporting God's existence and creative power, including the fine-tuning of the mathematical constants governing the universe, the inability of naturalism to explain the wildly improbable development of life from inanimate matter, and the privileged planet status of the earth as likely the only inhabitable planet.



The evidence that is most compelling is Einstein's theory of general relativity (confirmed by eclipse observations of gravitation bending light). Einstein's theory predicts an absolute beginning to space and time (an implication Einstein himself found troubling). Subsequent evidence of a red-shift of galaxies and background radiation indicates that the universe began in a Big Bang, a cosmic explosion from a single point (a singularity) at the beginning of time.



Now if time had a beginning, then no naturalistic cause could operate outside of time to cause the Bang Bang. The only reasonable alternative is to recognize that a timeless, immaterial, omnipotent intelligent designer could account for creation out of nothing, and the subsequent development of a universe and a planetary home for intelligent life.



Cheers,

Bruce

Answer 3

I'm not a big wiz in this category. I'm a Christian though. There r many things that support God existing, although I don't think we'll ever have any "proof" of how the world began. At least scientific crap. Evolution hasn't been proven, why don't u go and ask this about atheism? Because alot of the world hates God. Doesn't it seem much more logical to have a Creator rather than coming from a big band and turning from apes to humans?

Answer 4

Dr. Edwin Orr, a Christian, once said, science does not prove the existence of God, nor does it dissprove the existence of God...Science does not tell us the why's or the who's only the how's.



There is evidence for the veracity of the Bible though. If the Bible can be verified does that then mean God is real? For example: The Bible speaks of a lake of fire within the earth. yes, we call it hell. But the scientific fact remains that there are molten lakes and rivers of fire, lava, and brimstone within the earth. News flash, the Bible had it first. Leviticus 15:13 and Numbers 19:17 God commands the Israelites to wash with running water after dealing with sicknesses and dead bodies. This is a hygene fact that was not recognized until after the American Civil War. Isaiah 40:22 speaks of the earth as a circle which we understand to mean that the earth is round. Only the Bible had it back then. Romans 1:20 and Colossians 1:16 both speak of visible things being made of invisible things (We think atoms, molecules, etc.) This is what lead Alexander Fleming to the discovery of germs. Archeaology bears out the historicity of the Bible as well but I've typed too much already.



Here is the problem with scientifically proving that God exists. The word exists itself is missapplied. Exist only refers to physical material things and not spiritual. In this hyper-literal way, God does not exist but He is very real. Science can only examine that which is physical and material. That is why gravity and wind cannot be measured only their effects can be measured.



Sage:

First, this academia you speak of has not always been around nor is it universal so it is subject to criticism. Second, there are several recorded writings that speak of Jesus, Such as Josephus, Tacitus, and Pliny the younger.



Also, more New Testament documents exist within a reasonable amount of time within the life of the Gospel writers to make them the most reliable documents of not only the ancient world but even the modern world. There are more than 5000 Greek New Testament documents alone from before Constantine that are catalogued. A few surviving documents even date within 40 years of the life of Christ.



Jesus was not a problem to the Romans but to the Jewish religious leaders. So, you would not expect to here much about him. Christianity existed for 3 centuries before Constantine. There are many documents from the post-Apostolic era such as Justyn Martyr, Clement of Rome, Ignatius, Polycarp, Hermas, Papias, Irenaeus, Tatian, Theophilus of Antioch, Athenagoras, and Clement of Alexandria. All of these verify Christian beliefs and doctrines. They even quote and make reference to the writings of the Apostles.



Sadly, the real victim of the disinformation campaign is you, right now, do some of your own research.



Gaytheist Buddha: Where did your internal compass come from? Who set it and what is it set to if there is nothing in authority over you?

Answer 5

Why do people think they are faeries?



Some theists don't claim this.



And there is a 'scientific theory' supporting it, although many scoff at it. It is called Creation Science. It is a theory, handily cleft by Occam's Razor if you do not have the presupposition that the Bible is the Word of God.

Answer 6

Yada yada... blah blah... (insert non-sequitur hollow in good judgment)... "they had to originate from a clever dressmaker named the God Yahweh." (q.v., the different solutions) there is particularly a 2d non-sequitur interior the quoted sentence too. the place the (falsely) concluded identity progenitor is termed as a particular deity. in certainty, technology has accumulated data which exhibits the particularly some definitions of Abrahamic gods are fake recommendations. The god of the gaps keeps getting pushed back, and the god definitions are then replaced to stay with the situations. Any medical data provided to you to respond to your question could falsify an Abrahamic god declare, not make particular it. (As you in all probability properly comprehend once you ask the question.)

Answer 7

Science doesn't prove or disprove the existence of god or a higher power. Neither does Christianity if you take away the bible. Christianity only makes sense if you choose to believe in a book that may or may not be true. Atheism is much more practical. Christianity is nothing more than blind faith. With Atheism, you don't believe until it's been proven. However you do have to believe in science. But all religion takes some amount of faith. Even if some is more than others.

Answer 8

They claim that intelligent design is a scientific theory.

Answer 9

There is NO scientific evidence supporting the existence of God. Sane theists know it well and admit it also.



That doesn't necessarily mean you can't believe in God. But insisting there's empirical evidence for the existence of God is intellectual dishonesty.

Answer 10

Look in the real world.

Decode this lyrics " You'll see "

"Wonderful world"

Sure?

There is scientific evidence?

Then why did it took more than 60 years being unable to come up with the answers in time?

Can science see spirit through a microscope in time?

Simple common sense also don't have?

How to survive in the real world with science and mathematics in time?

Luke 21.30-36

Luke 9.25,55-56,60

Luke 24.44-45,47-48

Revelation 22.13-17

Luke 21.1-7

What do you think?

Answer 11

Academia states that in the absence of proof of the existence of something it must be deemed not to exist until verifiable proof is found - thus god is held not to exist pending some sort of verifiable evidence.



There is not one single mention of Jesus in the entire Roman record - that is right - not one!!! At the same time as he was supposed to have been around there were a number of Jews claiming to be the messiah - all of whom are well recorded!!



There is not a single contemporary record from any source and even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!!



He was supposed to have been a huge problem to the Romans and produced wonderful miracles but still not one contemporary record?



Even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!!



Pilot is recorded in the Roman record as a somewhat lack luster man but no mention of a Jesus, a trial or crucifixion that would surely have been used to make him look brighter!!



At best he was an amalgam of those others!!



The Roman Emperor Constantine produced the bible and he was a pagan not god!!! He also organized Christianity into the Holly Roman Catholic Church!! Not in Israel or any of the countries of supposed origin but entirely ITALIAN!!



Not one word of it is contemporary with the period and was not written until several hundred years after the period the story is set in!! How did the apostles write their books more than a hundred years after they would have been dead?



What a wonder full disinformation and deception campaign he waged against his Christian enemies - so good in fact that Christians are still following the deception to this day!!!



The first person to provide a shred of verifiable evidence for God will become world famous and mega rich!! Ain't happened yet and it never will!!





So how does this primitive belief survive? The answer is simple and very down to Earth!!



Acceptance of a supernatural claim tends to promote cooperative social relationships. This communication demonstrates a willingness to accept, without skepticism, the influence of the speaker in a way similar to a child's acceptance of the influence of a parent. By encouraging this kind of behavior where the most intense social relationships occur it facilitates the lack of skepticism and deters more open minded thinking.



They are christian, Muslim or the other religions depending where they were born simply because they were indoctrinated by their parents as very young children. They will go on to indoctrinate their own children and those will go on to indoctrinate their grandchildren!!



Atheists have the intellect to see through the conditioning and escape into the real world!!



Agnostics have the intellect to see through the conditioning but lack the courage to throw of the conditioning entirely.



Sadly Christians are still held firmly prisoner by the self perpetuating brainwashing!!

Answer 12

That's because there is and all those theories and facts suggesting the existence of God are kept hidden by atheists. To see some of the scientific evidences visit

http://www.google.com.pk/m/url?cd=1&channel=gp1&ct=res&dc=gpromo&ei=7Cn1SriFBpSKrgOgsYT1Aw&og=gp&oi=blended&q=http%3A%2F%2Fislamicb.blogspot.com%2F2009%2F06%2Fatheism-is-it-possible.html&resnum=1&sa=X&source=gp&uipref=6&usg=AFQjCNHzIOq2lv2wQugflNDhtWCS-Ql-fA

Answer 13

You say that but there no scientific evidence to support your trinity god, you pagan Christian!



Convert to Islam where everything about life make sense and stop believing in trinity, ok.

Answer 14

Quantum Physics. Learn something about the universe you suppose to exist in.

Answer 15

Someone said belief in god comes from good morals? Really?



Atheists such as me realize that every situation is unique and requires a response suitable for that particular situation. We are not blindly rigid in our beliefs or actions.



Morals come from socio-culturing, parents, peers, and life experience.



My friend Christian claims that only those who believe can live a moral life and those who do not believe in god have no moral compass. He claims to live a moral life, not because it is the right thing to do, but because his god expects everyone to be moral. The fallacy with his reasoning is that mitzvahs and morals should be followed because his god and holy book dictates rules to us and not for personal, philosophical spiritual reasons, or simply the secular humanist approach of treating others with dignity.



Compare and contrast the following:



ATHEISTS - who have an intrinsic sense of positive and negative behaviors and actions, understanding that each situation is unique and calls for flexible rules and reasoning. Atheists possess an internal compass – call it a golden compass -- to help guide them toward positive and negative outcomes. Atheists possess great courage by taking a stand on something they comprehend, not some set of rules blindly followed.



MY FRIEND CHRISTIAN, who would have no sense of morality in absence of his god or bible. Christian’s only sense of morality comes from an external source yet he possesses no internal compass to guide him through life. He constantly asks, "What would Jesus do" because he appears completely devoid of internal sense making or judgment. Christian only has his book to point to for his beliefs.



From responses I've seen in R&S, people like my friend Christian are jealous of us atheists, believing we are getting away with debauchery or something wicked without having to pay some type of penalty; that we get to live a life without morals and then don't have to suffer the consequences. Not sure by what irrational logic they arrive at that conclusion. As an atheist I am moral, kind, and selfless because it is the right way to live. I have no expectation of any reward for proper living. Wouldn't a true Christian be good in absence of salvation, or are they only good to be saved?

Answer 16

I think the belief in it would be more legitimate if they add scientific terms in it.

Answer 17

The theist claiming this nonsense don't understand what scientific evidence is probably dear....