Question:
Basic scientific observations that point to God?
snap
2010-12-12 22:54:47 UTC
Causation. God provides the best explanation for the existence of the universe and all that's in it. (The alternative theory is that "nothing" exploded and resulted in everything that we see.)
Order. God provides the best explanation for abstract notions such as numbers, mathematical formulae, chemical-based processes, and natural laws. (The alternative theory is that the chaotic first elements ordered themselves into complex information systems.)
Design. God provides the best explanation for the absolute complexity inherent in cosmological, stellar, planetary, chemical and biological systems. (The alternative theory is that random chance engineered apparent design.)
Encoded Instructions. God provides the best explanation for the digital DNA code contained in and controlling the functions of all life on earth. (The alternative theory is that complex code, such as binary code running computers, can pop into existence without any kind of programming, testing and debugging process.)
Irreducible Complexity. God provides the best explanation for fully functioning biological organisms, systems, and subsystems that couldn’t come about through gradual evolutionary process without totally ceasing to exist at lower, evolutionary levels. (The alternative theory is that biological systems took huge, unseen leaps from simple to complex without any guided process or forward-looking instructions.)
Duality. God provides the best explanation for the separate human functions of brain and conscience (matter and mind). (The alternative theory is monism -- only matter exists and the human brain only appears to have a separate subconscious ability.)
Morality. God provides the best explanation for the existence of love, emotion, altruism, and inherent moral/ethical values throughout the world. (The alternative theory is that unguided materialistic processes evolve higher human consciousness.)
Ten answers:
2010-12-13 00:04:03 UTC
Desperation produces fantasy!



Science explains the big bang was not from nothing but from a singularity that was all the matter and energy in the universe compressed into a single point that then expanded rapidly!



So it was always here!



But why are BAD christians always claiming the big bang came from nothing? Are they that ignorant? Did they sleep through school or is it that they know the truth but think they can twist it because everyone is gullible?!



Now you try explaining where god got nothing from how he is supposed to have then produced everything from nothing!
?
2010-12-12 23:27:54 UTC
ooook..



Causation:

When you say God provides the best explanation of Causation your saying that something had to start things off and that something had to be God. Your not explain why it had to be God nor are you explain how, if God can be a cause, all other things can't be a cause. Also, FYI, the alternative is that fluctuations in the quantum vacuum caused an infinitely dense singularity to expand which is a well supported fact.



order:

Define order and chaos, then explain what math has to do with them. Math is a human construct to explain what we see around us, and not all the things we see around us are "ordered". Meteorites slamming in to planets and suns going supernova and creating black holes seem like anything but order. Explain how God is the only possible answer.



design:

God is more complex then any design so your argument fails before it even starts. If God can start out infinitely complex, the universe can grow to be a somewhat complex.



Encoded instructions:

We've spend 150 years developing a theory of evolution and spent several years working on the field of genetics. All our work in those field would suggest that God didn't not have anything to do with it. As for a complex thing "popping" in to existence, you have yet to explain how god popped in to existence and your making a straw-man argument; your alternative is nothing like any theory we have on the formation of complex life.



Irreducible complexity:

It's crap. Read a biology book.



Duality:

How? Explain how monism is incorrect.



Morality:

How? Explain your position. Also, the alternative is that we behave morally because we have empathy and we just don't want people to harm us.
?
2016-12-01 14:10:50 UTC
and what has any of this to do with technology? you're making what you think of (or have, plenty greater possibly) been instructed, are logical conclusions, none of that are irrefutable/ Causation: why could or no longer that is (that is plenty plenty greater possibly by using the way that that is not) an intelligence that pushes over the 1st domino Order: why are there no 2 snowflakes that are comparable? What may be the element or (see under) layout: enable's see the blueprint Encoded classes: um. . . . . what's the which potential of PI? Irreducible complexity: no longer even quite worth a controversy as yours makes 0 experience in any know duality: if duality exists (it does) then what's the alternative of God? Morality: study something by using Kant. by using in basic terms announcing that GOD represents the "suitable" a threat consequence you're truthfully denying his Godliness (you, your self propose there are different opportunities) and this, without even asking you for aspects or information!
?
2010-12-12 23:11:57 UTC
Current cosmology does not, anywhere say the initial expansion of the universe came from "nothing" it says that space-time as we understand it started at that point.



Mathematical formulae prove themselves, 1+1=2, no external creator necessary. There is no proof of any external creator writing the laws of chemistry, biology or physics.



So why does our "digital" DNA contain so much junk thrown in with the useful information?



Every time someone tries to show a biological system that is "irreducibly complex", counterexamples can be found to show that they aren't. The eye is the most commonly cited example, this started off as simple pigmented light-sensitive cells - it took a long, long time for this system to evolve into the eyes we see in mammals today.



We can actually see a lot of what happens inside the mind with MRI, none of it seems to be dependent on some external ghost, soul, ectoplasm or whatever.



Morality. God in the bible is an amoral psychopath, it is ridiculous to say that this monster is the basis of morality.
2010-12-12 23:03:00 UTC
Got all charged up at sunday school today didn't you?

Oh, and the simplest answer is ,, no to all of those fallacies. Sorry, none of them are even answers, none of them say how or why. you can't just say that the god thingie provides the best explanation without giving the explanation. how did god make those things? when did he do it? why doesn't he visit again and make some more stuff?
2010-12-12 23:30:39 UTC
Your question reminds me of watching a young bird fledge. They discover they have wings, start to flap them and then discover they can lift themselves out of the nest. Then they decide to try to fly and proceed to crash into the ground.



Every single one of your points has been debunked for centuries. Instead of trying to defend your irrational beliefs in ancient myths by parroting lies, perhaps you should find out why you have those irrational beliefs in the first place.
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2010-12-12 23:06:12 UTC
Old, old, old... crap.



God and the supreme "Fatal Attraction" relationship with his subjects is about "I love you, but if you don't love me back and make me happy, I'm going to make you sorry you didn't."

Very loving … very mentally unbalanced.





Life as it truly is, is much grander than anything religion has to offer.



‘Gods’ and magic are the most simplistic excuses ignorant primitives have ever imagined to explain anything.



We could just as well suggest Noddy and Big Ears, with or without the assistance of Tigger and Pooh, did it cos there’s just as much evidence.

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Wayward Sun
2010-12-12 22:57:27 UTC
You know you had to write so much just to come up with a weak thesis because there isn't enough evidence in the whole world to point to the existence of a God.
2010-12-12 23:00:43 UTC
my friend, you are sorely mistaken.



for example, i am an atheist. i believe in the highest morals, and i chastise many of my christian friends because they commit minor moral transgressions without even noticing.



so if your logic is correct, atheism is the true belief in god.
god_of_the_accursed
2010-12-12 23:02:08 UTC
so your "best explanation" in EVERY case is to say "god did it"? How is that an explanation?


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