Why do people believe there was a beginning to existence?

Question

Science doesn't declare that existence "must" have had a beginning. It studies what it observes, and "so far" science can't categorically say that all existence had a beginning, or that all existence has an end. The Big Bang, or more correctly Big Bangs, is the "current" idea of how existence "may" have happened ( this current science is changing by the month ... the current ideas on the Big Bangs are different from the Big Bang idea of a year ago, which in turn is different from the Big Bang of earlier times). Science is in a constant state of flux, as indeed it should be, as new data constantly arrives.

Soooooo, I can see NO scientific evidence whatsoever that can categorically state all existence had a beginning, and all existence has an end. In "existence" I also include the existence of 100% nothingness.

My conclusion? Until science can categorically prove that ALL existence had a beginning, and ALL existence has an end, then the myths related to religious belief will continue on.

Humanity is STILL in a primitive stage of intellectual development, and science is STILL in it's utter infancy. This means humans are STILL subject, via their current inadequate intellectual biology, to believe that deities, demons, spirits, devils, angels etc etc etc are creatures that actually exist.

It will takes many more tens of thousands of years of intellectual development before mankind finds the scientific answers to all existence.

Then mankind can finally kiss goodbye to the evil of religious belief.

Answer 1

It is clear that something cannot possibly come from nothing because nothing is insubstantial. And so essentially there is nothing for the big bang to grab hold of in nothing, in order to pull out the primitive universe from that magic hat of nothing.



In fact what you are left with is an irreducible quantum field which is effectively a conserved property, just like the pre-quantum conservation laws. Creationist love conservation laws so that does not hurt our position at all. For it is clear that either two things can always exist: either God or the quantum field. You see a conserved object (i.e. the quantum field) as a beginning, no matter how complex it may be. Yet if it were truly a natural beginning, it would be simple rather than complex; in keeping with the trend of physical reality. As the saying goes, the theory of everything would fit on o T-shirt.

In the creation of the quantum field, God has opened a door that no one can close therefore it is conserved. I have given no tricks, no sleight of hand game to my words with you yet for all my cogent remarks you are pleased to be reduced to mere word play & games for your rebuttal, but all your games will end on the judgment day.





And just like those conservation laws it is impossible to break them and so creation does not exist (according to atheists). And likewise because of the conservation of the quantum field; nothing is impossible and does not exist (and we believers agree since God always existed).



Atheists play the same old game; it used to be that matter always existed because of the conservation laws but now it’s that the quantum field always existed. Yup the same old, same old; nothing’s changed but the names to protect the guilty.



But the quantum field like matter itself can be created by God. And since God knows everything, and can do everything therefore all the quantum randomness would unfold just as God had intended.



And so God created the universe by creating the quantum field therefore atheists have merely moved the question from: who created matter, to who created the quantum field?



And so just like the bible says: God spoke and bang it happened.



SPACE IS NOT NOTHING; both PAIR PRODUCTION & QUANTUM VACUUM FLUCTUATIONS happen within space (IN FACT YOU WOULD BE HARD-PRESSED TO SHOW THE ONES THAT OCCUR IN THE ABSENCE OF SPACE). So in reality it is quite beyond Empirical Science (i.e. observable by the scientific method) to claim that they can happen without space or time; you cannot show that to be so, reference the quantum foam as a medium of the fluctuations. The scientific method may seem to you as a caprice & merely human barrier compared to austere refinement of pure mathematics. Yet how else can we say that another mathematical model does not exist, unless we demand tangible evidence by some agree upon human standard like the scientific method. So yes when you can SUCK OUT ALL THE SPACE AND TIME IN THE ROOM TO DO THE EXPERIMENT FOR WHAT YOU CLAIM then you can make that claim; So until then:



Checkmate, game over, and you lose atheists: you lost the argument as well as your very souls.



So do you think am I right or what?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFfCKy0nKr0



The Reason Why It Will Always boil down to God as the WINNER in ANY Fair Debate is because of Finite Exhaustion & Elimination; the fact is that there are a Finite Number of Conclusions you can come up with AND ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THEIR ANSWERS CAN AROUND THESE TWO ANSWERS !!! Once you realize this, there is no question that God must exist since it is not a matter of being merely bias but simply a matter of a Process of Finite Exhaustion & Elimination !!!



How I see it is that The Agnostic Position is merely an interim learning period for a final conclusion !!!



It is clear what the bible says that God always existed but when think about something has to always exist; atheist like say "Well Who Created God Then But They Always Turn Around & Say The Same Thing About Something In Their Theories, Just Look M Theory, The Brane World Always Existed, Or Look at Eternal Inflation Theory (The Inflation Always Existed), Or Simply Look At The Quantum Field (Hell Yeah It Always Existed For Atheists). BUT AH NOW; POOR GOD HE CAN'T EXIST EVEN IF THE BIBLE CLAIMS THAT HE DOES, HOW SIMPLY UNFAIR & UNTRUE !!! How Can Something Be Illogical Based On A Bias & Unfair Argument.

Answer 2

Because all evidence suggests there was, and there is nothing to suggest there wasn't.





""so far" science can't categorically say that all existence had a beginning, or that all existence has an end."



Science is not in the business of "proving" things. Its function is to provide the most accurate model of objective reality the available evidence allows.



And, as I mentioned, all available evidence points towards the conclusion that existence has a beginning.





"The Big Bang, or more correctly Big Bangs, is the "current" idea of how existence "may" have happened""



First, the Big Bang Theory is "proven" beyond any plausible refute. Details regarding how it occurred obviously change as new data comes in, but the fact that the universe expanded from a singularity at its temporal origin point can be stated to a virtual certainty.



Second, the fact that theoretical physics models that describe how the universe *could* have arisen from "prior" or "higher" universes exist should *not* be construed as meaning that such models are in any way true, or, more to the point, in any way *necessary*. The Big Bang Theory is comprehensive, and the universe works perfectly fine as a finite model with a singularity at its temporal origin point. Until there is evidence to suggest it, there is no reason at all to suggest that any "additional" theory is required to explain the universe, or that existence initially extends beyond what we recognize as its beginning point.





"It will takes many more tens of thousands of years of intellectual development before mankind finds the scientific answers to all existence.



Then mankind can finally kiss goodbye to the evil of religious belief."



The exponential evolution of our species' scientific and technological sophistication suggests that the end to scientific inquiry will come much, much sooner than "many more tens of thousands of years". My estimate is "many more years, perhaps as many as two thousand, but probably more like one, if even that many".



As far as religious belief, it's already obsolete. Not that argumentum ad ignorantiam is a valid argument to begin with, but we already understand how the universe formed, how the world formed, how life formed, and how humanity formed. There is no place left for God to hide, and nothing for which subscription to the supernatural is required, or even sensible.



We don't know what events occurred a googolplexth of a Planck Second after Time Zero, and we may not only never know, but quite possibly can't. But we will eventually know enough, and in fact know enough already, to state some things to degrees of relative certainty, others to a virtual certainty, and while the fact that existence has a beginning may technically reside in the former, the fact that supernatural explanations are not required for our understanding of reality is certainly in the latter.

Answer 3

The problem with an eternally existing universe as we know it, is the witnessable stumbling block of contingency. Everything we can observe seems to derive it's existence from some previously existing source (accorns/oaks, chickens/eggs, you/your parents...you get the idea)



So from this observable phenomenon comes the age old philosophical question; "How does a universe consisting of nothing but contingent agents come to exist at all?" suggesting it simply has always existed is a tautological argument that fails to address the question...



Now a non-contingent first, first cause is another matter.









"Then mankind can finally kiss goodbye to the evil of religious belief."



"Evil" can only be argued philosophically, some people reject the idea outright and plenty of people set their own idea around what is or isn't evil... If you're suggesting a tangible truth value of good and evil attached to moral acts which carries a binding moral imperative, I'm sorry to say, but you will playing right into the hand of religious beliefs.

Answer 4

A scientific theory is a unifying concept that explains a large body of data. It is a hypothesis that has withstood the test of time and the challenge of opposing views. The Big Bang Theory shows that our universe began about 13.7 billion years ago. It is supported by extensive empirical data.



Six prominent facts supporting the Big Bang Theory are:



** The red shift of almost all galaxies, getting greater as their distance increases.

— This shows that the galaxies are flying away from each other, at greater speeds at greater distances.

** The cosmic microwave background radiation.

— This is a remnant of the radiation from the Big Bang, and has cooled over time to the exact temperature predicted.

** The variations in the cosmic microwave background radiation.

— These variations fit theoretical predictions, and were caused by quantum differences near the start of Big Bang.

** The proportions of the lightest elements and isotopes.

— This helps show that the calculations for nuclear interactions immediately following the Big Bang are correct.

** The changes in galaxies as we look further away (and thus back in time), with distant galaxies more primitive and having fewer heavy elements.

— This shows some of the changes in the universe since the Big Bang, and confirms the deep time of the universe.

** The change in the apparent speed of type 1a supernova as we look back in time, with distant supernova exploding more slowly.

— This shows that the light has been stretched out by the expansion of space over billions of years.



All current data indicate that the universe will expand forever, ending up as a thinning soup of energy and/or particles.



For more, watch the video at the 1st link - "A Universe From Nothing" by theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss, read an interview with him (at the 2nd link), get his new book (at the 3rd link), or read an excerpt from his book (at the 4th link).



Since we already have extensive data debunking almost all religious belief, and people still believe in their religions, scientific answers are not enough for us to "kiss goodbye to the evil of religious belief."

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Answer 5

Here is your proof, the Hubble space telescope has literally looked back in time. It has looked so far into space that the light takes billions of years to get here. Here is an example, the nearest star Proxima Centauri, is 4.3 light years away. This means that the light which is the fastest thing in the universe, takes 4.3 years to get here. The Hubble can see galaxies and star that existed billions of years ago, in their infant stages. Just like a human galaxies are born, age and eventually die. When all the galaxies are dead and all the stars burned out, the universe is dead, and something that dies, has to be born. There is your proof.

Answer 6

I had a dream once where I saw a black void and a Hand reached in and started stirring with the index finger until a swirling mass came together like a whirlpool. It was beautiful. I always believed that was God showing me how he created the universe. Very special indeed since I always went the scientific route to everything but still knew that there had to be intelligent design.

Answer 7

The core of the big bang theory has never changed..it has always said the universe started from a singularity, While the universe itself proves big bang is real, we can never know there are or have been other big bangs, since they must happen outside the universe...something we can never know.

Answer 8

As with every good author or artist all you have to do is see "their mark" "know their work"



God's work is all over the universe his personality, his power. Much like a child that resembles a parent.

the heavens surely declare God's glory.



Romans 1:19

because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them.20For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable;21because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty‐headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened.22Although asserting they were wise, they became foolish

Answer 9

There was no beginning to existence.

God always existed.

Therefore existence always was.

There was only a beginning to creation's existence.

Answer 10

May have happened? You do understand we have the "baby" pictures of the universe don't you? It's really pretty obvious that it did happen. Not that it "may" have happened. The question is the cause. There is no question that it actually happened.

Answer 11

why you believe that you exist. O stupid you dont exist.