Question:
Did you know that Jesus actually hates you if you believe the wrong way?
2011-05-05 17:58:40 UTC
He really does. Subjecting one of his children to an inconceivable eternal punishment for not knowing how to believe is an act of hatred and not mercy. Let me ask you a question. Do you feel it is right to threaten a person into loving you? Believing in something out of fear of the consequences of not believing is not a good reason to believe. I do not expect you christians to be able to comprehend any amount of logic, reasoning, or common sense therefore I am an IDIOT for repeatedly asking these questions to those who can only quote the bible as their defense. I will only get the same answers over and over again and none of them are the least bit convincing. I think it would be a great thing if I got sheeple to think for themselves because it is a truly liberating experience though you are set in your ways and when one of your loved ones dies without Jesus I am sure that you christians will all believe that they deserve to burn forever and ever and ever in a LAKE OF FIRE WITH NO MERCY WHATSOEVER. Religious people disturb me for I feel that your beliefs reflect your consience and if you believe this sadistic **** then I have nothing but pity for your soul for you are desecrating God and everthing that he stands for if there is a loving God in the first place.
Thirteen answers:
kdiz
2011-05-05 18:04:24 UTC
You sound more like your soapboxing more than asking a question. Why does it bother you that other people think differently. I agree that it is liberating to break free from non-logical religion ( I was mormon) and think about the universe and god in my own way, but for some people believing in a delusion is safe and comforting, and when they get around other people who do the same thing they feel less alone.
2011-05-06 01:05:25 UTC
I was expecting Rev. 2:6.



The NASB renders it as deeds, not doctrine.



Anyways, it's true that everyone is a children of God. But this status must be maintained, since no one is legitimately a children of God unless they are born again (aka purified) and obey Him (Rom. 8:14; 1 Peter 1:1-2, 22-23).



Hence, He does not subject His children to eternal punishment. Those who go to eternal punishment are those who are not His, do not belong to Him.



As for not knowing how to believe, that's not a problem if God is a understanding God (1 Samuel 16:7), not the God portrayed by Christianity.



Also, where does the Bible say He forces people to love Him? Even when Jesus comes, He won't force anyone to convert. The Bible says all will be subjected and bow down yet Rev. 20:8 indicates rebellion. That indicates suppression of deeds, not suppression of desire. Hence, not everyone will repent even after His coming. Not everyone will receive Him in His coming (2 Tim. 4:8).
2011-05-06 01:27:57 UTC
Hi! I am a Christian but still I think for myself. If you refer to what really happen in Jesus time, all the things he did sent him to hell. He wasn't following the code and made himself lots of enemies for that. He thought against the established religion and rituals and brought 2 simple commandments"love God with all your heart" and"love your neighbour as you love yourself". He used to talk to misfits, unbelievers and untouchable people. Yet, after his death, he came back from the grave. Nowadays, people look for his body and DNA, But, they are missing the point. What matters here is why he came for and the message he brought along. Before him, whoever was sinning(everyone) was destined to Hell, and he died to prove that death or hell is not the purpose and that everyone has the choice to live a better life, since we all make and will always make mistake. Don't refer to what people tell, since I think that in religious sphere there is politic and propaganda. But focus on what really matters: your life yesterday, today and forever more. Isn't Jesus who risk is life to defend an adulterous woman and gave her the chance to amend herself? He could have sent her straight to hell by throwing the first stone."he came for the sinners", to tell them that even if they were rejected by their society, they were precious before God.By the way, do you know why Satan hate us so much? He used to be the angel of light and he refused to bow down before humans, God latest creation, saying that we were not worthy.So now,why do you think Jesus or God would benefit from sending us to hell forever?And why is Satan perpetually accusing us of being unholy if we were not special?God said:"My people are suffering because of a lack of knowledge"
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2011-05-06 01:23:25 UTC
I know this is long, but please read it. I think it will explain a lot of what you are concerned about regarding the Christian belief of hell:



First of all, God would never punish someone for "not knowing how to believe". There is a verse in the Bible itself that says that God would not cast anyone out of His presence who never had a chance to learn of Him. So what you're saying there is incorrect. I can see how you might take this doctrine the way you do; I can understand the way you are perceiving this. But that is not how it is intended. You have to understand Christian doctrine in its entirety to understand the concept of hell/eternal separation from God. It's not a scare tactic or a way for God to force people to believe/worship Him out of fear. To Christians, God is holy, pure, light, and love. There is absolutely no darkness whatsoever within Him, nor can anything "dark" (i.e. sinful) be in His presence. Darkness and Light cannot coexist simultaneously. I am speaking metaphorically and I hope this is making sense. According to Christian belief, sin is darkness and separates us from God. We have to be completely pure to be able to be in His presence. But there is not a single person who ever lived or who ever will live (besides Christ, according to Christianity) who can live an entire life without sinning at least once. Sin being: lying to someone, being envious of others, coveting the possessions or success of others, stealing from others, etc. Everyone does these things. So what are we supposed to do if we are naturally sinful, but being sinless is the only way to be in the presence of our Creator after we die? In the Old Testament, God offered a way to atone for our sins: sacrifices. The Jews in the Old Testament would sacrifice the first born male calves (or sometimes there were other things you could sacrifice if you couldn't afford a calf) which had to be the absolute cream of the crop. They would kill the calf and offer it up as a sacrifice for their sins. This was symbolic because according to scripture, the wages of sin is death (meaning spiritual death or hell/eternal separation from God). Offering up the animal sacrifice was also symbolic of the Ultimate Sacrifice that was to later come, which was Jesus Christ. Christians believe that Christ is God in the flesh, who took on a human body and lived a completely sinless life. He was murdered in the form of crucifixion for claiming to be God. The scriptures which date back thousands of years before the birth of Christ prophesied of Christ's birth, life, atoning sacrifice, and resurrection. Christians believe that the death of Christ served as the ultimate sacrifice for sin. Jesus said that whoever believes in Him and accepts the sacrifice He made also accepts the forgiveness that is offered through His sacrifice, and so symbolically and spiritually, they are pure again and can be with God when they die. People who choose NOT to accept this don't have their sins forgiven, so when they die there is no way for them to be able to be in the presence of God again. I don't believe that Hell was created as a "punishment" for "bad people" or people who won't believe in God. I think what Hell is, is that people who die may realize that they are now eternally separated from their Creator, and it would cause a lot of mental anguish knowing that they don't have a chance to go back and make a difference choice and that that separation is forever.



I hope that that makes sense. I don't know if it makes it any less offensive to you, but hopefully it will at least give you a clearer understanding of these beliefs.
Uncle Remus 54
2011-05-06 01:12:55 UTC
What you perceive as hate from God is really concern for your soul. Perhaps overly so.



What did God do for you? Oh I don't know. He left his throne from glory and came down to earth as a mortal man. To live as he wants all men to live free of sin and shame and guilt. So that no man would be punished by Him for the evil they do with in their mind, hearts, and body. But what else did God do?



God was willing to die for us as that one perfect man and to take all the sins that that all of mankind has done and will do upon himself. And die once and for all so that every man can be saved and go to heaven and be with him for all eternity.



This is what John 3:16 and 17 is all about.



I chose His gift of salvation who is Jesus Christ because I know that He is God in the flesh. And I know that only God can save man from sin and that no mortal man can.



There is no hate with God. He hates instead the sins that we do for that separates God from man.



Think about it.
Alan S
2011-05-06 01:03:04 UTC
no. When a follower brought news of others doing healing in the name of God, the disciple thought they should stop them but Jesus said those that are not against us are with us. so you see, its; not Christ that hates you for believing the wrong way, its the Christians.
2011-05-06 01:01:04 UTC
There is so much evil in the world that hell must exist. Evil that goes unpunished in this life will be paid for in the next.
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2011-05-06 01:04:10 UTC
Jesus is not capable of hate, just you atheist are experts at it. God bless.
Shinji Ikari
2011-05-06 00:59:46 UTC
Troll?
Schmoolie
2011-05-06 01:06:44 UTC
You are rambling. My Church, the Catholic church certainly does not teach such jibberish.
2011-05-06 01:01:13 UTC
Did he tell you this himself??
2011-05-06 01:01:13 UTC
jesus doesn't even matter.



THOR matters....thor is finally going to be here
cork
2011-05-06 01:02:38 UTC
REALLY?

YOU TWIST AND TURN AND SEAL YOUR WON FATE.


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