Question:
Why when faced with the truth, instead of accepting or rejecting it,?
anonymous
2010-04-22 13:44:52 UTC
the willing lost (Atheists, Agnostic et al) change the definitions?

Abortion isn't murder because that's not a baby...its a lump of fetal tissue

This one lie...er redefinition, has justified the murder of 40+ million completely innocent babies

Likewise in every other agenda driven humanistic endeavor from Homosexuality to Evolution when faced with the truth, it is never acknowledged, the definitions merely change....why is that?

This dishonesty, to protect a lie, will probably garner a bunch equally spurious answers.....but I had to ask....why?
33 answers:
anonymous
2010-04-22 13:49:30 UTC
Who defines truth? You?
Eye of Mars
2010-04-22 14:02:13 UTC
*Sigh* Because the topics are not usually so simple as you lay them out to be.



Look at abortion, for instance. Sure, I'd rather it not happen, but there's the very real chance a woman conceives during a rape. In this case, despite the fact that she neither wanted the child, nor planned for it, nor did anything intentional to conceive (like having consensual sex), and yet she's got no option but to carry this monster's progeny? Especially when we consider that, early in the developmental process, the fetus doesn't even yet have a nervous system? How is very early-stage abortion different than the instance where a fertilized egg fails to implant on the uteral wall?



Similarly with homosexuality. It's a fact that this is natural behavior, as it exists also in animals (which, having not eaten the apple, should still be free of "sin"). And yet they're denied the same rights that heterosexual couples have, even though their interpersonal relationship is functionally equivalent. And before you point out that 'gays can't have children', I'll just point out that, by that logic, sterile heterosexuals, or heterosexuals with vasectomies or hysterectomies shouldn't be allowed marriage rights either. Furthermore, it's the legal rights that gays are concerned about; you can keep the religious aspects of marriage all you like.



As for evolution, I fail to see where the "definitions" change. It is often the THEIST making incorrect claims about evolution that I'm here to address. Such as calling it 'just a theory' (theory was used in the scientific sense long before its modern, common usage), saying 'you think we evolved from rocks?' (No, no one has said that. Ever.) and 'there's no signs of a transition fossils' (EVERY INDIVIDUAL is an example of a 'transition'). The ideas of science, and by proxy, evolution, have stayed pretty damn consistent since their inception. It's hardly our fault that you keep getting it wrong.



I should point out that the same allegation could be made against you. Why the convoluted "God doesn't show himself to preserve free will... even though he revealed himself to Moses, Abraham, and the like?" Why the ongoing centuries of "Jesus' return in near!"... with nothing to show for it? Why the several different Christian denominations, some of which berating each other for not having the truth?



Seems like a pretty colossal effort to keep the illusion going to me.
Mia
2010-04-22 13:58:41 UTC
The definition of baby is in the dictionary. You too can look it up. A baby is a child from the time of birth to the age of one year. A fetus is not born. The definition of fetus is: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth. Since abortion is legal in many places it appears that quite a few people don't regard it as murder. This is because murder generally involves the concept of personhood which implies some level of sentience and self awareness and independence as a life form. Things which a fetus entirely lacks. It appears to me that you are the one bending the truth of the situation.
anonymous
2010-04-22 16:37:21 UTC
The Bible says (we know you nitwits don't believe it). conception is the begining of life.

Check out the facts below.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Why you can believe the Bible and since the Bible is true, then

you can believe in God,because the Bible speaks of Him existing.



This is based on the history of the King James 1611AV Bible.

Other versions (233 DIFFERENT versions on the market), ALL are proven

to be from corrupt MSS (manuscripts).



1. It doesn't demand blind faith. For faith to be of any value, it must be

based on facts, on reality.

2. Ancient history supports the Bible's accuracy.

3. The Gospels provide reliable accounts of Jesus.

4. Archaeology Science backs up Biblical accounts.

5. Textual scholarship confirms the Bible.

6. The Bible is true to it's original form because:

a. we have such a hugh number of MSS copies, over 24,000.

b. these copies agree with each other 99.5%.

c. the dates of these MSS are very close to dates of their originals.

7. The Bible's textual integrity is more certain than that of Plato's

writtings and Homer's Illad.

8. History written ahead of time is proof the Bible is not a product of man.

9. In contrast, the book of mormon: archaeology has repeatedly failed to

substantiate the book's claims of cities, persons,names or places mentioned.

10.From a historical and legal perpective, if enough eyewitnesses are alive when the

the facts are published, it's can be fairly well established the vaidity of a

secular event. (see 1 Cor 15.6)

11. Anthropology Science (study of humanity and

social cultures) confirms the Bible.
Q
2010-04-22 13:55:48 UTC
I admit that abortion is effectively killing a baby. But it's a medical procedure that we need to keep on the table for times when not intervening could or would kill the mother and/or fetus.



If you can't tell the difference between a zygote, embryo, fetus and full-grown baby, too bad for you, because you aren't going to be taken seriously in the abortion debate and you aren't going to change jack sh*t.



Your decision not to learn the different contextual definitions of the word "theory" isn't any skin off my d*ck either, because as long as you sit here on the internet saying "I'm right and they're all wrong because I say so!", you aren't going to change anything about the world. If you murdered an abortion doctor at least you could say you did something, but you haven't done anything at all to "combat the evil atheists". So go on, keep runnin your mouth on Yahoo Answers, the rest of us in the real world are just going to keep making decisions that you don't like.
anonymous
2010-04-22 14:05:53 UTC
I know it is very hard for you to understand, but not everyone agrees with your version of "truth," or your "book," or your "religion and law."



You have made chrisianity central to your very existence.......because of this your every view will be colored by christianity. You seek to enforce it on "the unsaved masses." Most of us in the world do NOT share the same views as you.......even many christians are more moderate........



This is why, in the end, we win. Where your kind HAS managed to influence government and the lives of others will soon be a thing of the past. In reality, the more you expose the truth of christianity, the deeper a grave you dig for it, and the faster you usher in it's demise.



So preach on, brother.
sugnim
2010-04-22 13:57:50 UTC
Excuse me, Mr. Lion, but it is dangerous for anyone to assume that they possess the truth or the correct definitions of everything. Whether an atheist, a Christian, a Buddhist, or any other vein of religious philosophy, it's important to keep your mind open. Don't you think so? Or, have you forgotten this little verse: "Who is this that darkens counsel with words without knowledge?"
Universal Aardvark
2010-04-22 13:50:09 UTC
Use of fetus to describe the pre-born dates to at least 1594, and possibly earlier. The term embryo is from the 14th century.



Both of which, you will agree, are well before the Roe v Wade Supreme Court case.



Of course, by another standard, induced abortion is at least as old as mankind. It predates any terms in modern language by thousands of years.



Are you sure it's a terminology thing that's going on here?
Corey
2010-04-22 13:49:28 UTC
Do you have a funeral for every miscarriage or zygote that doesn't implant? I didn't think so. It's not us that are redifining anything. Also, a heads up. Atheist to Pro-choicer isn't a 1:1 relationship. There are pro-life atheists and pro-choice Christians.



God is aparently neither pro-life or pro-choice. He instructed Moses how to force abortions on women in Numbers 5.



"This dishonesty, to protect a lie..."

You have no sense of irony, do you?
Aristotle Reginald Tesla
2010-04-22 13:49:48 UTC
Last time I checked you guys were the ones inventing vague terms which you change the definition of at the drop of a hat.



See:

Use of the term 'kind' in arguments about evolution.

The definition and description of God.

Morals.

Good.

Evil.

Immoral.

Amoral.

Christian.

And many, many others that I do not care to list.
neil s
2010-04-22 13:49:17 UTC
Calling a fetus a baby is begging the question, a fallacy. Everything else you claimed is simply vague ranting, since you offer no clear examples. All you have shown is that using words like "spurious" does not indicate being educated.
anonymous
2010-04-22 14:07:58 UTC
"Murder" is defined in law as "the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought."



Since abortion is legal, it's not murder -- by definition.

Since an embryo is not a human being (again, by legal definition -- look it up, in the law "human being" refers to someone that has been born alive), it's not murder by definition.



Now, whom did you say was changing definitions?



Anti-abortionists purposefully use the word "murder" in an attempt to inflame emotions, even though they know that by definition it's not murder.



So take this latest of your poorly-constructed straw-man arguments and slink back to your church.



Peace.
anonymous
2010-04-22 13:51:14 UTC
If anyone changes definitions, its you Christians...



God was said to live in the sky - when science demonstrated that to be incorrect, he was moved into outer space. Now that science has shown that to not be true, God has moved to another dimension...every time science makes a discovery that your God used to occupy, you move the goalposts and redefine your God.



And then you accuse US of playing semantics?



Fact is, a "baby" is a viable human who can live and breathe on its own without any artificial assistance. Since a fetus cannot accomplish this, IT IS NOT A BABY.
anonymous
2010-04-22 13:53:43 UTC
Your evidence consists of a 2000+ year old collection of books.



Our evidence consists of actual research and scrutiny from people who think that 2000 year old books are infallible sources of information... and our evidence survives that scrutiny.
Upasakha Jason
2010-04-22 13:48:02 UTC
How about this: it isn't murder because it doesn't fit the LEGAL DEFINITION of murder. No matter how much you gripe and moan about it, it doesn't fit the legal definition. All you have are appeals to emotion, which is to coin a term: "dishonesty, to protect a lie."



Why do you misrepresent the issue to make yourselves look like moral champions?



As far as homosexuality, I assure you, that from the pedophilia scandals of the catholic church to the male prostitutes of evangelical ministers, you do NOT want to go down this rabbit hole (as it were) with any of us.
Jason
2010-04-22 13:49:16 UTC
Right, homosexuality and abortion are wrong because you said so. But wait! Other people have different opinions than you! OH THE HORROR!
Purple Monkey Dishwasher
2010-04-22 13:50:41 UTC
in what way did the definition of abortion or fetus ever change?



please explain because unless your willing to do that your question is baseless.
jethom33545
2010-04-22 13:50:07 UTC
Why don't you know the definition of truth?Hint:its not your opinions.



Why do you willfully deny reality?You do it all the time.
anonymous
2010-04-22 13:48:24 UTC
You're the best one to explain that sort of dishonesty under the circumstances.
Denny Crane
2010-04-22 13:53:49 UTC
Here you go, my silly little child!:



http://www.ask.com/web?q=dictionary%3A+lie&content=ahdict%7C58947&o=0&l=dir
anonymous
2010-04-22 13:51:03 UTC
Keep talking. All you're doing is providing more and more evidence that you're full of it.
donutkid: hammer of Thor
2010-04-22 13:49:09 UTC
Your morals are yours. Your "truths" are yours. Keep your opinions to yourself and let others lead their own lives.
anonymous
2010-04-22 13:48:07 UTC
You should tell all your friends that we monotheists should stop promoting atheists.



If we stop believing in atheists... atheists wont exist. If we don't believe that they exist, then we won't be publicising them.



If they come and try to ghoul at us like ghosts, we'll of course bring the exorcism against them.
Pinkie Pie
2010-04-22 13:48:23 UTC
1. The definition of abortion isn't murder brainwashed imbecile.



2. You're assuming you're right.
HAYAH
2010-04-22 13:49:08 UTC
The Very Reason Their Ears Are Closed To The Words Of The Almighty, So to have their own way of Death.



The way they think is DEATH.



GET IT?
2 Shepherds
2010-04-22 13:47:29 UTC
We believe it's to justify not changing a lifestyle, belief system or worldview.
*Blessed*
2010-04-22 13:47:25 UTC
The truth is difficult to face sometimes.

I'm not saying I agree with you 100%...but still...
anonymous
2010-04-22 13:47:11 UTC
I don't get it. Work on proof-reading before you post.
pab
2010-04-22 13:45:37 UTC
Your opinions are not truth. I know this concept is confusing.
Strega
2010-04-22 13:47:28 UTC
I really hope you are not serious, if you are, your tunnel vision is terminal.



My deepest sympathies.
Metal Maiden
2010-04-22 13:46:40 UTC
Yum aborted fetus





I like them babbys fried
Jet
2010-04-22 13:46:52 UTC
you're a dumb lion
anonymous
2010-04-22 13:47:20 UTC
for convenience and due to not wishing to repent..



abortion is always murder....they love their excuses


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