Question:
Do u agree that humans need morals, not religions?
Grandpa Homer : 74 Not out !
2010-06-05 22:18:42 UTC
Why do you agree or disagree ? Ur thoughts are bound to benefit many people.
Twenty answers:
destiny
2010-06-06 09:10:05 UTC
My dear friend....



I totally agree with you....because ethical values, morals and integrity is far MORE important than the dogma and conditioning of (any) religion !!! Send you my best wishes and all my LOVE***
2010-06-06 07:31:46 UTC
Christianity destroys morals!!



Research shows that the reason humans struggle with emotion to find equitable solutions is pinpointed the region of the brain called the insular cortex, or insula, which is also the seat of emotional reactions.



The fact that the brain has such a robust response to unfairness shows that sensing unfairness is a basic evolved capacity.



The emotional response to unfairness pushes people from extreme inequity and drives them to be fair. This observation shows our basic impulse to be fair isn't a complicated thing that we learn.



It therefore fully illustrates that all humans have morals controlled by the brain and that Christians are entirely wrong to try and claim morals as their own!!!!



But Christians found a way round it!!



Government statistics show that christians are vastly over represented in prisons for sexual, violent and fraudulent crime!!



The Catholic church is paying millions in compensation for the sex/pedophile crimes of their priests alone!!



Christians are vastly over represented in the divorce courts!!



Christians invented the concept of sin and then the idea that you could sin, ask forgiveness, get pardoned and start with a clean sheet!!



So no surprise that they are so expert at it is it?!!!



A Christian is a man that feels repentance on Sunday for what he did on Saturday and is going to do on Monday. - Thomas Russell Ybarra
Lady Morgana
2010-06-06 05:24:37 UTC
I agree, and would go further and add that you do not need religions to have morals, AND that the morals that people create and live by are much higher than the standards by which deities conduct themselves. Believers allow their deities to commit the most vicious atrocities (like killing one's own son) and excuse that behavior as being OK for the deity to do but not for people to do.



Uh huh, yeah, right.



And religious people sometimes wonder where we atheists get our morals if not from some god. People create morals in their societies so that we can all get along and understand the rules we are expected to obey within our societies. The law "thou shalt not commit murder" did not come from any god, it came from people who were creating the rules and morals for society.



Great question!



Regards,

Lady Morgana
this is my avatar
2010-06-06 05:23:13 UTC
agree. ironically we have it backwards though we have more religion than morals.



technically humans don't "need" morals. sexual slavery is a successful business but also about as bad as the human condition can be. it sells mostly to the rich and the rich buy politicians and preachers (those who people follow)... it doesn't surprise me that we have it backwards. religion is a great tool for those with big plans for the global future.



religion is the grip on the mind, politics are the grip on the body and you are the passive observer.
kcsadvocate
2010-06-06 19:47:52 UTC
All religions have got a set of morals and ethical principles and commend them to the followers as to be part of their lives. Religions do contain certain theological postulates and consequential derivatives. Often these too are based on morals. Though some religions have some notions of reward and punishment for moral life and immoral one respectively, this can be just taken as emphasis of basics.

Since any law, for enforceability has to have an element of deterrence, these religions over-emphasize the aspect of punishment. Sans this too, the social pressure possible to be exerted, by co-religionists, is sufficient enough deterrence.

So, I do not find any dichotomy between religions and morals.

The problem comes only when "we and they" us and them" attitude gets developed vis a vis other schools of theology. Non-realization that own religion is one among several but a dogma that it is 'the religion' and 'the truth' leads to negative tendencies and cause fissures and fragmentation of humanity. Proselytisation though perhaps originating in the good sense of making all to reap the benefit one has 'experienced' degenerates into zeal,mission and frenzy, and leads to forcible approach, and inducements (which in other spheres of life would be called bribery or illegal gratification), are bandied out. "Ends justify means" theory gets developed. Resistance is met with brutality and the nomenclature of 'holy war' (with its equivalent in different languages) is invented, propagated, nurtured,indoctrinated and people get brain-washed.

At this stage all morals, which are inherent in the religion are relegated as impeding elements, in the mission. Then inevitably violence, counter-violence and more repetitions recur. Religion is thus de-valued.

Each one definitely can get his/her morals from one's own conscience. But this does not necessarily postulate that all doctrines handed down to humanity through the ages by great masters ,seers and sages are to be per-se discarded and fresh introspective inquiry alone is to be launched.

The greatest threat to morals does not emanate from religions but by crash consumerism that dictates a theory that standard of life is measurable by acquisition of material wealth. Sharing and compassion, spending only when necessary, saving for sharing the misery of others and several other principles of nobility are not to be sacrificed at the altar of Mammon.(allegorically stated).
2010-06-08 05:55:45 UTC
As I see it, religion is all about morals. That is the way to reach God as they say it. Religion is a good moral book.

The sad thing is many people have misinterpreted religion for violence, hatred and all other vices.



So we need correct and easy interpretation of religion, morals will follow automatically.
Veers த‌மி‌ழ்
2010-06-06 07:13:00 UTC
Agree!



Orange juice is the need. But without the Skin of orange fruit, we cannot get directly juice. Once we take the juice we discard the skin.



Morals and Spirituality is the need. But only religion can effectively give it. Once we understood the need of morals & turned spiritual, religion is redundant!
Squall
2010-06-06 05:21:01 UTC
For some people religions provide a moral compass.
Mutya P
2010-06-07 01:40:17 UTC
Humans need morals and at the same time religion. It is your parents' duty to mould you to be a person with good values in life. And religion will enlighten you and remind you to use "the flame of love" which GOD have given to each one of us to use in a constructive manner.

Take care and GOD BLESS ALL OF US.
Muthu S
2010-06-06 08:38:58 UTC
The different customs, forms of worship, tenets & conventions

may be the reason to form a religion

If we can not universalize customs and conventions we have no moral.

So it should be common to all.

Everyone may follow one religion (but there is not one now)

As God is one, let the religion be one, necessary and universal
Proud Jail Minister
2010-06-06 05:21:28 UTC
What's the difference? If I understand correctly a religion is defined as a set of rules/morals that you live by.
Lyss Q
2010-06-06 05:19:58 UTC
Morals are black and white; religion is a gray area.



Or if you prefer,

morals are green and red; religion is kinda brown.
Wes: i dont give thumbs down
2010-06-06 05:20:03 UTC
agree

religion is to aggressive and hostile to those who would like to think differently.

we have and know morals today and people who just suck it up, grow up, and realize that we are all the same we would have less problems in this world.
AALUNGA >>RETURNS
2010-06-06 07:17:47 UTC
Well!!!!!!!!!!!!



You are correct...



Religions originated to preach morals..



But, people hold the religions and preach them...

Leaving morals apart!!!!!!
wy_kid_wrangler
2010-06-06 05:45:01 UTC
Where do you get your morals from?
Skweeki
2010-06-06 05:21:19 UTC
usually with religions, comes morals. morals are taught in almost all religions, so we need both!
2010-06-06 05:20:56 UTC
Ok, but be ready to explain why things like murder, rape, theft are actually bad in the first place.
Sara
2010-06-06 05:24:03 UTC
Neither morals or religions. They need God.
Chernobyl
2010-06-06 05:20:17 UTC
There are too many f*cked up people out there who would kill without religion's rules. People like Americans and blacks.
Jason R
2010-06-06 05:20:04 UTC
or ethics


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