Question:
Confused, not really a question. Just need to tell?
2008-11-02 12:22:05 UTC
My background : I take drugs (pot, x, mush, alcohol) I don't abuse them. Alcohol, shrooms and X = very rare. Weed once every 2 weeks. I believe moderation is the key and that I am very responsible when it comes to drugs.

I had a fight with my dad because he's really aggressive and cannot control himself, he's an alcoholic and had a tough life as a child so I can't really blame him. My big sister, who is 28 y/o, is really involved in Christianism. She believes that our family needs to be more in touch with God and Jesus to find peace. She invited me to a christian rap concert which made me got into it. Drugs are seen as bad in christianism because of how easy it is to get addicted but I still want to continue to use them, with moderation, because I am young (18) . I know I won't take drugs all my life, that I'll grow out of it somewhere in my twenties.

Right now I think you have to believe in yourself, and that buddhism is a great way to think. Karma, nirvana, etc. I really respect buddhists, they seem to know a lot about life. I tried meditation and I think it's a wonderful tool. On the other side, I like to pretend to be a shaman and use drugs more as a tool to explore other state of consciousness. Yeah I don't know where I'm going. I'm very attached to my family and I don't wanna hurt them, my mom knows I smoked pot. She's just afraid of addiction.
Fourteen answers:
2008-11-02 12:28:13 UTC
the problem with drugs is they steal your motivation for greatness and to acheive and turn u into what amounts to, a lollipop ..
2008-11-02 12:57:03 UTC
You say that you want to continue to use drugs because you are young. This is not true. You want to continue to use drugs because you like them. That's all. There is nothing that says you will outgrow them in your 20s whatsoever.



Just to clear that up.



I smoked pot for 20 years. The only reason I quit was because most of the pot I smoked was grown by a friend who was an expert in hydroponic pot growing and went to Amsterdam every year to purchase the very best seeds that would grow the most powerful pot. And indeed it was. Top notch, top of the line, made it into High Times Magazine several times and won awards, etc. It was beyond 1 hit pot, it was way beyond that.



Finally it got so powerful that even I, a veteran of 20 years of smoking it, began to actually have heart palpitations whenever I smoked it. That was some killer pot, let me tell you. The best of the best.



So that's why I actually quit. I didn't WANT to quit, and I was in my 30s when I quit.



Looking back on it now, about 15 years after quitting, I can see that my mind and my sprituality was really clouded all the time, like a veil over my mind and eyes. The difference between now and then is truly remarkable. Back then I thought I was fully functioning, and I smoked it like a regular person smokes cigarettes. There was never a time I wasn't high. I functioned in society just fine, good job, family, everything.



The main difference I notice since quitting is the LEVEL of functioning is different. I was always high functioning, people had no idea I was high, and I was quite effective in my job, family, etc. No problem.



It is only since quitting that I look back and see that I was actually not functioning at the level I am now. I could have been accessing a much higher spirituality and intensity than I was then, and I am doing that now. I really missed out on a lot, thinking that I was functioning normally when i really had a veil over my eyes and mind and spiritual self.



Do I think that pot is the first step towards a lifetime of addiction to hard drugs? Not hardly. It's not. What it is, is an escape, a fairly mild escape, even much milder than alcohol is because on pot a person doesn't get ****faced unaware of what they are doing or saying, or passing out. A person continues to function on a pretty high level on pot, unlike what happens on alcohol.



I had a pretty dysfunctional childhood, and I know that I used pot in order to dull the emotions and feelings that I had.



Even though it SEEMED like it wasn't that, and that it actually HELPED me be a perfectly well-functioning and more aware person, this wasn't true.



So I'm telling you this stuff so that you don't think that it will help you access some higher spirituality because it really just dulls everything to one degree or another. The difference between now and then for me is really a sharp difference.



What is a good idea is not to get all caught up in things that are escapes. I think that Christianity is for many people nothing but an escape, their version of pot. Same for anything else that anyone uses in that manner.



What really is the best thing is to find what your passion is, and get involved in that. What interests you the most in life? If you haven't discovered this yet, then you can find it. The whole wide world is out there waiting for you to find what it is you are really interested in. You will know it when you find it. When you find this, you will lose all interest in anything that will dull your understanding and spirituality, and that includes pot and the rest that you mentioned.



Good luck, I wish you well.
bo k
2008-11-02 20:29:22 UTC
Although it is not a question, I would like to discuss a few points.



First of all, using drugs is not a tool to explore other states of consciousness. Using drugs is a tool to explore what more physical pleasure brain can offer us. The more physical pleasure we discovered, the more hooked we will be. It is going to be a vicious cycle, unfortunately. Once, hooked, it is difficult to get out of the cycle. You know more than me, in that aspect. The reason is if we refuse to carry on using drugs, brain will torture us with all the withdrawal symptoms.

That is why it is dangerous to put the brain on high in the first place or it never wants to come down again.



Buddhism is a way of practice that can overcome the brain torture.

Not in the sense that, it will fight off the brain.

But in the sense that, it will give us the strength to ignore brain's threats so that brain gives up in the end. It is like refusing to give ransom to the bad guys. As long as we keep giving ransom, the bad guys will be hanging around forever.
Gypsy
2008-11-02 12:41:30 UTC
Wow, I used to be just like you. I thought I could use drugs only in moderation and as a tool to explore other perceptions of consciousness.

Well, I got addicted without meaning to. It happened so slowly I didn't realize it was happening. I did all the same drugs as you plus acid, ketamine, speed, etc.

Guess where I ended up? Living in a psychiatric ward for 6 months because I developed drug induced psychosis and an anxiety disorder. Please be very careful. Smoking pot every two weeks is completely harmless, but don't screw around with other drugs. Shamans don't use these drugs just for fun. They use them as a tool for learning. In most Shamanic traditions it is necessary to do a lot of preparation and studying before taking a hallucinogen.
YepYeppers
2008-11-02 12:36:53 UTC
You really might want to try to adopt either christianity or Buddhism

which ever one you feel is more spiritually correct, but both things believe that drugs are wrong and they are because they destroy your mental state and turn your body into a waist land that's why their illegal and even the government finds them immoral , but religion is not about the mind its about the soul and you have to find which way you want to go



I personally am a christian and believe in one God but if you become Buddhist I don't care you really should just get off of drugs because they can very well control you and you not even know it or want to believe it ill pray for you
The Foreigner
2008-11-02 21:31:20 UTC
I believe you are addicted to drugs (pot, x, mush, alcohol), either one or all of them. If you think you aren't, try to quit them all tomorrow and forever.



You have violated the the fifth precept in Buddhism which states to abstain from using intoxicating drinks and drugs which lead to carelessness. The heedlessness will subsequently lead you to violate the remaining 4 precepts--killing, stealing, sexual misconduct, and lying.



You already learn it first-hand from your dad how alcoholism can do to himself and his family. He has only himself to blame for this behavior because he is the only person that can choose his destiny.



The violation of the precepts will also interfere with your meditation practice which is a basis for further development of the Right Concentration (Sammasamadhi). You are unlikely to attain the nirvana (enlightenment).



According to the law of Karma, persons who are ignorant and use their precious time indulging in the activities that cloud their mind, their next life will most likely be animals or hell-beings.



The meditation can be used to control a craving from above illicit drugs and alcohol. If you are familiar with Breathing Meditation (Ānāpānasati), every time you inhale, or drink above drugs, focus on the path they enter and how they destroy your body and mind.
2008-11-02 12:35:10 UTC
Using drugs at all means you are not responsible. It's impossible to say 'I am responsible when it comes to drugs' unless you don't use them at all. Get a clue.



If you want to be boring and pointless, and need drugs to 'explore the otehr state of consciousness' then you are not half the man you think you are. You don't need drugs to do that. You personally just can't do it without drugs, because you are lacking.



And no, I'm not a Christian or even a theist. I just realise that drugs are for the absolute weak.
Blue Foots™
2008-11-02 13:02:35 UTC
Drugs are not okay. Trying to justify it is not okay either.

As far as your own personal religious belief, sure, if Buddhism is what you feel drawm to, then go that way. I think your sister is just showing concern for you because she is on the outside of it all and sees what is really going on, perhaps things you don't realize right now that you are doing all of this?
Lilith Raven
2008-11-02 12:36:35 UTC
pot = addiction?...



really?...



So as soon as you have a beer you're on a slippery slope to alcoholism then?... I really am sorry to mock as it's obvious there are issues becasue of your Dad but pot does NOT mean you're a crackhead within 6 monthes.. that is ridiculous, I'm sure you're aware of this but these posters seem not to be.....



If it's not an addiction & not harming anybody so what?...
2008-11-02 12:28:19 UTC
Isn't there supposed to be a question here?
john wondering
2008-11-02 12:32:43 UTC
Do you feel better now?
2008-11-02 12:32:41 UTC
You are absolutely right... you have no question...
♥ terry g ♥
2008-11-02 12:28:09 UTC
Please clean up your life and don't waste what precious little time you have here.
2008-11-02 12:26:55 UTC
its not responsible when its illegal......whats your ques??


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