Question:
Creation deniers, how do you explain polystrait fossil trees if there was no Flood like the one with Noah?
anonymous
2015-09-29 01:20:47 UTC
Polystrait means a tree that is fossilized standing up, with several different layers of sediment surrounding them. Atheist science sometimes claim the layers around these standing trees are many millions of years different in age. Creation science says the Flood deposited the sediments layer after layer and buried them (standing) in less than a year. Which one makes more sense?
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Pyriform
2015-09-29 02:25:53 UTC
Well, even if they were impossible according to standard geology, at least that would only be one impossible thing, as opposed to the multiple impossible factors that would be necessary for the Noah story, so the latter still makes less sense.



Just because there was no global flood, that does not mean that there were no floods at all. It is quite possible that there were many normal sized floods, just as there are today. Why you would want to suggest an impossible global flood instead of the sort of flood we see happening frequently these days?
Brigalow Bloke
2015-09-29 01:49:35 UTC
PolySTRATE. When you can show that the bases of all these trees are at the same stratigraphic level then you may have something. Since you cannot do this, and I already know that you cannot, I will call your "creation scientists" like Andrew Snelling , Robert Patton and Ian Juby frauds and liars, which I also knew already.



Note: A photograph of ONE such fossil proves nothing.
?
2015-09-29 01:43:41 UTC
Firstly, it's polystrate, not "polystrait". As in, referring to multiple strata. Interestingly, polystrate is a creationist term and not a geological one. That tells me a lot for a start.



Geology doesn't claim that the strata accumulated "over millions of years", regardless of what answersingenesis might suggest. In some cases in fact, the trees were living through the various sedimentation events.



Tell me something: if the standing petrified forests were the result of a single flood event, why would they exhibit multiple sedimentary strata?
?
2015-09-29 01:31:30 UTC
How can we believe that God brought the Flood to punish mankind for his evil sins - if God is a spiritual being, he would never have needed to use a Flood. The Flood is a prime example of how an actual physical event can be disguised by a heavy emphasis on monotheistic symbolism.



The story can be gleaned from ancient texts which pre-date the Bible. These are found in clay tablets from the excavation of Mesopotamia and brings to light the amazingly advanced civilization of Sumer.



From almost every culture around the world there emerge more than five hundred strikingly similar legends of a great Flood. These legends all share a common theme - of mankind being swept away with the exception of one man and his family who survived. The West generally knows the survivor’s name as Noah, but to the Aztecs he was Nene, whilst in the Near East he was Atra-Hasis, Utnapishtim or Ziusudra.



The Atra-Hasis epic clarifies the role of the Biblical “God” as “they” rather than “He”. Furthermore, this account, inscribed in detail on tablets states that “they” did not bring it about deliberately. Instead, it was resolved in the council of the gods that the coming Flood, which the gods were powerless to prevent, should be kept secret from mankind.



The roles of the gods (the Annunaki or Nefilim or “descended from heaven to earth”) in the Mesopotamian Flood stories are Enlil, the Biblical “Lord” to whom mankind has become a nuisance, wishes to see them destroyed. His brother Enki, who was personally involved in the creation of the first Adam , is sympathetic towards man and habitually antagonistic towards Enlil. Despite being pressurized into taking an oath of secrecy, Enki decides to warn one loyal follower and his family of the coming deluge. The chosen man is a priest from the city of Shuruppak (the city of Enki’s sister Ninharsag), whose name in the Akkadian language is Atra-Hasis, meaning “Exceedingly Wise”. It is worth noting that exactly the same meaning is applied to the hero Utnapishtim in the Flood account of The Epic of Gilgamesh.



The god Enki, also known as Ea. speaks to Atra-Hasis from behind a reed screen, a detail which is also found in the original Sumerian text, where the hero is named ZI.U.SUD.RA. Detailed instructions are given by Ea for the construction of a submersible ship. The Epic of Gilgamesh provides a dramatic and vivid account of the final preparations, when the hero is told to watch for the departure of the gods themselves.



The Sumerian scribes state repeatedly, that the Flood was caused in 11000 BC by Nibiru the planet from which the “gods” came to Earth. The Earth’s waters would have been pulled to one side by gravitational attraction, causing an enormous bulge towards Nibiru as it passed Earth during the encounter.
choko_canyon
2015-09-29 02:19:46 UTC
I like the notion of the flood making the water level so high that it was higher than all mountains, including everest. Where did Noah and his crew stash all those millions of oxygen tanks to keep them and all the animals alive at over 33,000 ft. elevation?
anonymous
2015-09-29 01:47:35 UTC
That Noah thing didn't happen. It was actually Venians trying to invade Earth with fire bombs, but the Earthians fought back with water bombs. Blame the Martians
torpex2002
2015-09-29 01:39:41 UTC
There is no evidence for a global flood.



There's evidence of various significant localised floods, landslides, etc.
?
2015-09-29 01:37:43 UTC
Since there is no evidence for a world-wide flood, it happening over millions of years makes more sense.
motivational_raven
2015-09-29 01:23:04 UTC
Ancient aliens
anonymous
2015-09-29 02:00:21 UTC
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