Question:
Any real evidence of Jesus?
anonymous
2012-01-01 04:30:36 UTC
Is there any evidence of Jesus apart from what is written in the bible?

What was Jesus surname?

Did he just go by the name Jesus of Nazareth? Jesus Christ? Jesus of Arimithea? Or did his birth records indicate Jesus son of God.

I am assuming that because there is no record of his real name that is the reason why there is no actual historical proof of his existence.
28 answers:
Sirensong sunshine
2012-01-01 04:33:04 UTC
No there isn't



There is a mention of someone called Jesus in Josephus, but that is widely regarded to be a fake and - like the bible - written many decades after the event is supposed to have happened



(Shroud of Turin? ha ha ha!)
?
2012-01-01 05:17:56 UTC
The Bible itself is the principal evidence that Jesus Christ is a historical person. The record in the Gospels is not a vague narrative of events at some unspecified time and in an unnamed location. It clearly states time and place in great detail. For an example, see Luke 3:1, 2, 21-23.



The first-century Jewish historian Josephus referred to the stoning of “James, the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ.” (The Jewish Antiquities, Josephus, Book XX, sec. 200) A direct and very favorable reference to Jesus, found in Book XVIII, sections 63, 64, has been challenged by some who claim that it must have been either added later or embellished by Christians; but it is acknowledged that the vocabulary and the style are basically those of Josephus, and the passage is found in all available manuscripts.



Tacitus, a Roman historian who lived during the latter part of the first century C.E., wrote: “Christus [Latin for “Christ”], from whom the name [Christian] had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus.”—The Complete Works of Tacitus (New York, 1942), “The Annals,” Book 15, par. 44.



With reference to early non-Christian historical references to Jesus, The New Encyclopædia Britannica states: “These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus, which was disputed for the first time and on inadequate grounds by several authors at the end of the 18th, during the 19th, and at the beginning of the 20th centuries.”—(1976), Macropædia, Vol. 10, p. 145.
?
2012-01-01 04:57:46 UTC
The Bible itself is the principal evidence that Jesus Christ is a historical person. The record in the Gospels is not a vague narrative of events at some unspecified time and in an unnamed location. It clearly states time and place in great detail. For an example, see Luke 3:1, 2, 21-23.

The first-century Jewish historian Josephus referred to the stoning of “James, the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ.” (The Jewish Antiquities, Josephus, Book XX, sec. 200) A direct and very favorable reference to Jesus, found in Book XVIII, sections 63, 64, has been challenged by some who claim that it must have been either added later or embellished by Christians; but it is acknowledged that the vocabulary and the style are basically those of Josephus, and the passage is found in all available manuscripts.

Tacitus, a Roman historian who lived during the latter part of the first century C.E., wrote: “Christus [Latin for “Christ”], from whom the name [Christian] had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus.”—The Complete Works of Tacitus (New York, 1942), “The Annals,” Book 15, par. 44.

With reference to early non-Christian historical references to Jesus, The New Encyclopædia Britannica states: “These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus, which was disputed for the first time and on inadequate grounds by several authors at the end of the 18th, during the 19th, and at the beginning of the 20th centuries.”—(1976), Macropædia, Vol. 10, p. 145.
anonymous
2016-05-16 11:42:26 UTC
Yes. The Romans recorded his name. The Jews have records of the time of disruption. Non believers know of Him through other spiritual writings. The Dead Sea Scrolls, ancient texts supporting and enhancing the "known" and accepted gospels (New American Bible) were found in the late 20th century. Horus' story is indeed older than Jesus' tale as recorded. yes, Isis gives birth to him and he dies for the good of the Egyptians. It is proof that an understanding of the ultimate sacrifice was with us as something like muscle memory before the actual event. Humans also are incapable even today of understanding G-d in all His power and majesty. Hence the myriad religions all claiming to be the One that explains it all (the 'Clarissa', if you will). We are imperfect. Our understanding of G-d is imperfect. We are getting closer to the truth every day. The best understanding we have of G-d and our relationship with Him is seen in the Christian New Testament. No other reasoning and basis for faith teaches at once that we are free to choose and we are only bound by two rules: Love G-d with all your heart; and Love your neighbor as yourself. Eastern religions promise a collective paradise, through otherworldly self sacrifice and communal rewards (including Reincarnation, with it's implication of a whole soul divided amongst finite particiapants [explicable only if insects and other things are included in the pool of recyclable persons, otherwise it's difficult to explain how the few people on Earth 100,000 years ago have been reincarnated into 7 billion today] and a caste system in place for the promise of better future lives). Islam promises nothing without blind obedience and murderous behavior towards "infidels". Pax.
anonymous
2012-01-01 04:44:00 UTC
There is a lot of evidence for Jesus' life outside the Bible. Respected historian ( I don't know if he calls himself a Christian or not) Geoffrey Blainey says in A Short History of Christianity "by the standard of the times, his life is astonishingly documented" and "among people who were his contemporaries...Jesus's life and teachings are amongst the most documented." Aside from one historian's point of view, logic is sorely tested to accept that someone who didn't exist could bring about the changes that took place in the first through third centuries. Especially in the time when the gospel was spreading fastest the events were still recent and easily verifiable by eye-witnesses. Many of the disciples suffered horrible deaths - for a story that was only new, did not have any canon or body of believers - extremely unlikely. Key point: yes, there is evidence for Jesus' existence and life.
anonymous
2012-01-01 04:50:32 UTC
It was fairly common for Jewish people in Jesus' times to add either their father's name, or the place that they were born, onto their first names, to avoid ocnfusion if anyone had the same first name. So Jesus would have been known in his town as either "Jesus of Nazereth" or "Jesus, Son of Joseph."



Jesus is mentioned in the Koran also. The Koran does not acknowledge his crucifixion or that he was the Son of God but they do believe he was a very important messenger. This is pretty cool since the Koran was written almost 600 years later.
HotChipz777
2012-01-01 04:48:55 UTC
There is actually historical proof of His existence. You can visit His tomb today if you want, and His body is still not there. Jesus body has never been found, because He has risen from the dead, and reigns as the Almighty God and our great High Priest.



Watch these videos, they give biblical evidence and historical proof that Jesus did exist.



Just Another Man? - http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/113/201-just-another-man/



Where Jesus walked - http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/114/202-where-jesus-walted/
anonymous
2012-01-01 04:38:07 UTC
there is no evidence of any religion or anything that is related to religion... its there to keep douche bags on the leash and make them believe in sins and other none sense so they wont turn the world into a war zone. HOWEVER, ******* religion is one of the main reason why every dirty prat on earth is biting each others throats. **** it all, its not real and never was! how the hell can even adults believe in this pathetic fantasy. i mean kids is one thing but ******* adults? **** you
anonymous
2012-01-01 04:35:41 UTC
Probably Jesus the chippie. Carpenter not chip shop man. Jesus was, and still is, a common name in the far east. So it was an easy choice for the scribes. Birth records? Surely you jest?
Ár Daonlathas
2012-01-01 04:50:40 UTC
The Greatest Man in History Jesus had no servants, yet

they called Him Master. Had no degree, yet they called

Him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called Him

Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won

no military battles, yet He conquered the world.

He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was

buried in a tomb, yet He lives today. I feel honoured

to serve such a Leader who loves us! If you believe in

God and in Jesus Christ His Son . . If

you ignore it, just remember that Jesus said ... "If

you deny me before man, I will deny you before my

Father in Heaven."
anonymous
2012-01-01 04:32:04 UTC
For all the fact that at that time census where popular and well documented... there is none of Jesus, which is very very strange.



>for idiot who said the shroud, that has never been proven. Carbon sating has disproved it several times, the figure it too tall to be from Jesus's time AND AND AND you can't argue that it is his blood because all blood loses it's haemoglobin in the same way after years of UV radiation. But of course it could really... just not likely
Andy
2012-01-01 06:34:02 UTC
Actually you are quite wrong. I suggest you go back to your history books and read them again.
?
2012-01-01 04:35:19 UTC
There is plenty of evidence from non-Christian sources and secular sources that Jesus existed.



So it is time for the bandwagon called "Jesus never existed" to be retired to the junkyard.
the re - chosen one
2012-01-01 04:33:07 UTC
I guess or else priests would be chasing evil spirits out of peoples houses in the name of The Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Invisible spiritman
2012-01-01 04:38:10 UTC
Yeshua aka Jesus is mentioned in some world history books...
anonymous
2012-01-01 04:33:50 UTC
This was whispered to the Apostle Paul the executioner by Jesus.



Paul1:13

If I speak in human and angelic tongues* but do not have love, I am a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal. And if I have the gift of prophecy and comprehend all mysteries and all knowledge; if I have all faith so as to move mountains but do not have love, I am nothing.

If I give away everything I own, and if I hand my body over so that I may boast but do not have love, I gain nothing.



Love is patient, love is kind. It is not jealous, is not pompous, it is not inflated, it is not rude, it does not seek its own interests, it is not quick-tempered, it does not brood over injury, it does not rejoice over wrongdoing but rejoices with the truth. It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.



Love never fails. If there are prophecies, they will be brought to nothing; if tongues, they will cease; if knowledge, it will be brought to nothing.

For we know partially and we prophesy partially, but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. When I was a child, I used to talk as a child, think as a child, reason as a child; when I became a man, I put aside childish things. At present we see indistinctly, as in a mirror, but then face to face. At present I know partially; then I shall know fully, as I am fully known.

So faith, hope, love remain, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
?
2012-01-01 04:34:39 UTC
Emmanual he was born in april im pretty sure. But they made Christmas on the 25 to show we can celebrate on a day that another religeon celebrates on
Allegory
2012-01-01 05:27:51 UTC
Grace unto you, and peace,

from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.



Indeed, let us determine what's "evident" from "evidence".



Evidence provided notes "Jesus" got an F: "Forsaken".

For "numbered with the transgressors" = hall of "shame".

Our biblical goal is be like "Christ" got an A: "Approved".

For Christ did not play the blame game ends in shame.



So "Christ" sitteth "above" ... hall of fame: Grace,

where "Jesus" sat "down" ... hall of shame: Law.



Apostle Paul: first a zealous Jew, then a zealous Christian,

whose titles include The Apostle: God's witness unto all men,

notes to "bewitched" what's "evident" from all the evidence is

"that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God",

and "no man" includes the "mediator" man: Jesus. For

"a mediator is not of one, but God is one". Galatians 3.



Therefore the gospel of Paul is not the gospel of Jesus,

(since Jesus = division, not peace; and wail, not rejoice)

but "the gospel of God": Grace,

and "the gospel of Christ": Peace: Romans 1.



The biblical evidence, regarding two Sons "Jesus", is this:

- it's all "allegory" in both "covenants": Galatians 4; so then

- it's neither literal, nor historical, but allegorical "mystery".

- "Jesus of Nazareth" = "King of the Jews" = Law = Deadly.

- in "Jesus" it's unrest (division), but in "Christ" it's rest (peace)

- "Jesus" is "cloud"-y: transfiguration, ascension, 2nd coming

- so then peace is notably "through Jesus-->Christ", "in Christ"

- God is not [author] of confusion (Jesus), but of peace (Christ)



Plural God of two Sons Jesus was Law:

- both good and evil

- both just and unjust

- both holy and unholy

- both salvation and destruction

So such first and last is last state worse: destructive



God is one, of one Son Christ, is constructive:

- Graceful

- Merciful

- Peaceful



So of such Law vs Grace allegorically portrayed,

the final conclusion is Paul's token: Grace with you all,

but even more specifically it's J-->C's grace with you all,

since the grace Noah found in LAW wasn't with you all.



The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.
?
2012-01-01 04:35:31 UTC
no hes fake made up by the xian church to remove all spiritual and occult knowlage from the populace n put it in the hands of a chosen few inorder to phisicly brainwash and spiritually enslave the world satan n his demon r the true gods and their extraterrestreals
anonymous
2012-01-01 04:34:38 UTC
Jesus is mentioned in several religions. Historians know he existed. Whether or not he is God is for you as an individual to decide. In my opinion he is God
?
2012-01-01 04:32:39 UTC
Surnames didn't exist 2000 years ago...



Jesus was just a man, not the son of God
Paracletus
2012-01-01 04:55:36 UTC
THE HISTORICAL JESUS





Here are some important sources about Jesus and the early Christians:





JOSEPHUS (37-100 A.D.).



The historian Josephus who lived in the first century, born in Jerusalem (born in 37 or 38 years, met the primitive Christian community, and as belonging to the Jewish priestly nobility, critically minded followers of Jesus. Also participated in the war against Romans in 70 AD, wrote in his book Jewish Antiquities:



- "(The high priest) gathers Hanan sanhedrim in the Judicial Council and is to appear before it the brother of Jesus surnamed Christ (James was his name) with some other" (Josephus, Antiquities, XX, p. 1, cited by short against the Catholic without God, directed by Ivan Kologrivof. Ed José Olympio, Rio de Janeiro 1939, p. 254).



- "It was at that time (during the uprising against Pilate who wanted to avail himself of the treasure of the Temple in Jerusalem to bring in water from a distant source), which appeared Jesus, a wise man, if ever, speaking of him, we can use this term - man. For he has done wonderful things, and for those who accept the truth with pleasure, was a master. He attracted to himself many Jews and also many Greeks. He was the promised Messiah, and when Pilate, at the termination of notable of our nation, condemned to be crucified, those who previously had loved during the life persisted in love, for He appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold, who had also predicted other wonderful things about it, and the kind of people that it takes the name of Christians still exists today. " (Josephus, History of the Jews, Jewish Antiquities, XVIII, III, 3, ed. Cit. P. 254). (1, pg. 311 and 3).



TACITUS (56-120 A.D.)



Tacitus, Roman historian, speaks of Jesus.



"To kill the rumor (which accused the burning of Rome), Nero assumed guilty and broke requintadíssimos torment those whose abominations made them hate, and whom the people called Christians. This name comes to them from Christ, that under the principate of Tiberius the procurator Pontius Pilate had given the ordeal. Repressed forthwith, this detestable superstition repontava again, no longer only in Judea, where he was born evil, but walks in Rome, where do all that is hideous and shameful in the world pour in and find many customers "(Tacitus, Annals, XV, 44 trans.) (1 pg. 311, 3)



SUETONIUS (69-122 A.D.)



Suetonius, Lives of the Twelve Caesars, published in the years 119-122, says that the emperor Claudius:

"Expelled the Jews from Rome, made under the impulse of Chrestos, a cause of disorder," and in the life of Nero, who succeeded Claudius, adds: "Christians, given the sort of people a new and dangerous superstition, were for the punishment "(Suetonius, Lives of Twelve Caesars, n. 25, quoted in Catholic Summa against the godless, p. 256-257). (1 pg. 311, 3)



PLINY THE YOUNGER (61-114 A.D.)



Pliny the Younger, in a letter to the emperor Trajan (Epist. lib. X, 96), in the years 111 to 113, calls for education about the Christians who gathered in the morning to sing praises to Christ. (4, pg. 106).



In his letter says: "It is my custom, my lord, you refer to everything about which I doubt ... never witnessed the trial of the Christians ... They all admit their guilt or error consists in this: that use is meet a scheduled day before dawn to sing a hymn to Christ as God ... It seemed to me a case about which I must refer you, especially by the number of the accused ... In fact, many of every age, condition and sex, are called in court and will be. The contagion of this superstition invaded not only cities but also the interior, seems to me that still can do something to stop and correct ... "(Ep. X, 96).



TERTULLIAN (155-220 A.D.)



Latin writer. His writings are important documents for understanding the early centuries of Christianity.



He wrote: "Therefore, in those days the Christian name first became known in the world, Tiberius, and he himself received information about the truth of Christ's divinity, brought the matter before the Senate, having already decided in favor of Christ ...".



THE JEWISH TALMUD:



Jewish tradition also collects news about Jesus. Thus, in the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian data that include, of course, contradict the Christian view, but confirming the historical existence of Jesus of Nazareth.
anonymous
2012-01-01 04:33:56 UTC
No there is no evidence.
anonymous
2012-01-01 04:34:53 UTC
None at all, it is obvious to all that are educated that he never existed.
Matthew
2012-01-01 04:38:17 UTC
Loads.
Muhammad Body of Dog
2012-01-01 04:35:42 UTC
Unfortunately there is no evidence....that idiots can understand.......
Anthony
2012-01-01 04:34:28 UTC
Yes there is "real" evidence.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ
Gorkbark Porkduke Gefunken Fubar
2012-01-01 04:31:16 UTC
No, there is not.


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