Question:
How many other people are sick of the anti-semite card?
2008-01-31 15:47:25 UTC
Okay I know this question will be deleted because a zillion people will report it. But is anyone else really tired of when questions are asked on mideast foreign policy anyone that doesn't say Israel has the right to do whatever the heck they want & the Palestinians have no rights is called anti-semite. Or if anyone asks any sort of question about ethnic Judaism they are called anti-semite.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index qid=20080131150404AANhvEk&r=w#QcEmWDW4UjAPbuKMyF7xGu7Ob21sbUuUU0FkDKQ5WXZ94giUgCsS

It really is ridiculous. Anti-Semitism by definition is hatred expressed against the Jew as a person because of his/her religion or ethnicity(so according to defintion there are ethnic Jews). Criticism of Israeli political & foreign policy, determined by its elected or appointed leaders, does NOT fit the definition. Calling someone an anti-semite is simply a conversation stopper in order to sidestep.
Also, for more thumbs down I am ethnically Sephardi (latin rite Jew).
Fifteen answers:
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2008-01-31 17:07:36 UTC
"Calling someone an anti-semite is simply a conversation stopper in order to sidestep." You nailed it!
2008-02-01 10:52:30 UTC
Nobody gets accused of being an anti semite just for criticising Israel.



But when I keep reading people stating that Israel has NO RIGHT to exist, and when ONLY the JEWISH state is discussed in this way, then THAT is of course anti semitism - what else would you call it?



If there were a group of people of all faiths, and someone declared that the Jewish person had no right to exist, but they didn't say that about any of the other faiths, would you deny that was anti semitism?



Same logic.



And no Jew or Israeli ever 'plays' racism as a 'card'.



Interestingly, the ONLY people who ever make remarks like yours are those that HAVE made racist remarks!
2008-01-31 16:50:29 UTC
It's the worst, a shame people abuse it, not saying there aren't anti-Semites out there, but some constructive criticism is a good thing and not immediately discrimination, its a shame you even have to worry about this question being reported. Its not antisemitism its called being a supporter of international laws and justice for the Palestinian people. (Like you said were Afro-Asiatics and also Semites)
Morey000
2008-01-31 15:54:00 UTC
Actually, I don't see anything wrong with your question. In fact, a majority of Israeli's support the right for the Palestinians to have their own country.



How many Palestinians believe that Israel should be allowed to exist as a sovereign nation?





And I just read all of the answers to that question you asked, and I didn't read a single 'anti-semite' one. What the heck are you talking about?!? You received a number of very good answers from various perspectives- NONE of which referred to the question as being Anti-semetic?!?!?!



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Correction: I see now that There was one single idiot that responded with the anti-semite thing. The rest were all pretty good.
kismet
2008-02-01 11:38:11 UTC
While criticism of an Israeli policy may not be anti-Semitic, the denial of Israel's right to exist is always anti-Semitic. If other peoples have a right to live securely in their homelands, then the Jewish people have a right to live securely in their homeland.
2008-02-01 12:29:22 UTC
In can be used to excess (remember ken livingston!) But there are however a lot of anti-semite out there for some strange reason. Its always been beyond me why.....maybe I am just slow
Nightwind
2008-01-31 16:01:18 UTC
I fail to understand your question. Only one person played the anti-semite card, and he's clearly an idiot. You get that here...on a regular basis. Yet off of that one post you're convinced a zillion people will report this question? Aren't we being a tad over-defensive?
The angels have the phone box.
2008-01-31 16:14:24 UTC
Maya has a real bee up her butt about Jews in general, not just Israeli politics. It doesn't matter how many sensible answers she receives, she always BA's the one that demonstrates the most hatred towards Jews.



BarrelBottom (who's not an idiot in the least) was justified in assuming that she'll do it again.



I think you may have misread his statement.



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EDIT

Think context, Cathy. You jumped on 'anti-Semitic' and didn't bother to read it carefully until it was pointed out to you. Whenever you talk about anything Jewish, there's a lot of context that goes along with it, much of it full of hate and violence. If you can be excused for misreading BB's answer, then perhaps you should extend the same courtesy to others.



It seems like you have a tendency to read your own context (esp. re your Sephardi ancestry) and your own interpretations into everyone else's answers. Slow down and read what's actually written. Take the time to learn a bit more about anti-Semitism and what it sounds like so that you don't trip into that language yourself.



Especially when you're on a tirade re criticism of Christianity and you capitalize JEWISH a dozen times. It's honestly hard to not see you as a hater then. Don't blame me, it's how you present yourself.
yes
2008-01-31 15:51:21 UTC
what the hell is that
Zeno
2008-01-31 16:51:06 UTC
Everyone is sick of it. Virtually every Jewish organization on earth literally takes the position that they,the government of Israel and all jews everywhere are to be held above criticism and anything who challeges that kind of racist supremacism is supposedly a neo-nazi or a skinhead and - if they are a public figure - automatically becomes the object of a well-orchestrated public hate-campaign of unbridled ferocity. Of course we're sick of it. There is no other group on earth that claims as their birthright the weird idea that they are to held above criticism. It's insane,it's repugnant and if you want to know the truth,it basically could almost justify true antisemitism. Antizionism for example is a purely political position and in the U.S. is associated with the Left not the Right. It has been since 1967. Today it's the right-wingers,the superhawks who are gung-ho for Israel and spending billions on it per year and bumping off any country they don't like at their behest,as with Iraq. yes,we're sick of it. Talk about nazis,most Jewish organizations would easily merit the term "Judeofascist" the way they operate. What to speak of Israel. Any other government conducting itself after this fashion would have long since met the fate of Yugoslavia in 1998. I think the so-called government of Israel should be disbanded as a criminal entity.
kent_shakespear
2008-01-31 15:57:34 UTC
actually, Arabs (including Palestinians) are Semeitc people, too, so the term anti-Semetic has been used rather unfairly from the get-go.



The danger of attributing anti-Israeli-policy under the umbrella of anti-Jewishness is that it does not prop up support for Israeli policy - it weakens sympathy for genuine anti-Jewish sentiments (unrelated to politics) in general. As more and more peopel come to realize Israel's deplorable actions, and if condemnation of thosa actions is deemed to be "anti-Jewish" even though it's patently not, sooner or later your critical mass is going to second-guess how much labeleld as "anti-Semetic" really is - and how much is BS.
Pangloss (Ancora Imparo) AFA
2008-01-31 15:51:07 UTC
I've never seen an anti-Semite card.

Do they sell them at Hallmark?
wakemovement
2008-01-31 15:56:11 UTC
Well Sephardi you might be surprised to know that Jews are sometimes disliked through-out history for more than just religion & ethnicity.
johnny.zondo
2008-01-31 15:52:16 UTC
perosnally i think israel shouldhave little to no ties to america. why theyre piggy-backing on us...well i dont know....



but i think were doing it simply because everyone would jump on them if we left.



so i suppose its a good thing...if we left they would all be butchered for an itiotic and archaic reason.
~~Birdy~~
2008-01-31 15:52:11 UTC
Thanks, I quite agree.


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