Question:
I don't get why atheist say that god must have a creator?
2014-11-01 01:05:09 UTC
What if god doesn't have a creator. What if it's just him by himself and he has always existed. Why can't atheist understand that. Why must there be a creator of the god? Don't you see what that would mean? .. It would mean there is an infinite number of creators. Doesn't make sense does it? What if there is just one god one creator of this Universe? Why can't you process that thought? Ok .. what if i told you The Universe IS god? .. How would you respond to that? You can't it's impossible because the Universe like you said has always existed = God. That means the Universe is part of god AND he is eternal. He has always existed. And you know what. He didn't actually 'create' the Universe. The Universe is part of him. Now get that in your hard big head. lol
Thirteen answers:
Dani
2014-11-01 01:21:45 UTC
The bottomline is that we do not know. We only ever say that god must have a creator when theists claim that the universe couldn't have came about on it's own. We use that as an argument to say - well - if you guys can't accept that the universe came about on it's own, then theists must answer where god came from.



We. Do. Not. Believe. In. God.



We could give two sh!ts about an imaginary god having or not having a creator. Again, we only bring it up when theists say that the universe can't come from nothing. So don't throw it back at us like it's our idea that a god must have a creator. Dude, this is your guys bullshit.
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2014-11-01 01:31:27 UTC
Well I do understand that you believe you are helping others by leading them to god and salvation, but I do have to say that there are many out there who strongly believe there is no god, just as you strongly believe there is. It is unlikely that a yahoo answers debate would actually change their opinion, most who don't believe in god would simply dismiss this post as just another religious person shoving their beliefs down other peoples throats and move on with their life.

Now I don't mean to offend with that, I am merely trying to show you another viewpoint, the viewpoint of those you are likely attempting to address with this post.

As far as god being the source of all, while I personally am not christian/catholic/etc I do have my own beliefs. Unfortunately in my beliefs I do still debate the idea of a single being creating the entire universe. I have difficulty believing that a single being of any kind could be capable of such a thing, while I do believe that there is a lot of energy within the universe and such energy is capable of a lot, including the big bang. The part I get hung up on is the concept that if energy is never created nor destroyed where did this energy originate?

Thing is whether you are religious or scientific this is a key question, and no one truly knows the answer. Religion says that it was god, sciences best guess is the big bang...but neither has a lot to prove their side, there is no tangible proof of god and science still cant answer where the energy that caused the bi bang originated in the first place. whether religious or not that is a concept beyond our grasp so we are all just taking our best guess. That said we need to acknowledge that regardless of belief we are really just standing by our theories and need to have understanding for each other despite our conflicting viewpoints.
Nous
2014-11-01 03:37:30 UTC
Don't be silly!



Atheists do not believe in any sort of god so they know there is no such things as creators!



Why do Christians post like you do then?



ALL the other religions and atheists live in peace and are ONLY attacked by BAD Christians which causes all GOOD Christians to despair at the damage they do!



The self destruction of Christianity is underway and the only thing that can stop it is to abandon the terrible human emotions, seek to rediscover the idea of a loving god and act like it!



Posts like yours that drive people further away from God are the reason so many DECENT people are becoming ANTITHEISTS!
2014-11-01 01:48:35 UTC
It's a usual creationist argument to say that everything must have a creator, or else it came from nothing, which is impossible.



This argument is easily refuted by showing that if god exists, then he must be an exception to the above rules, and if exceptions are allowed, then my stance is reasonable.



It's not unreasonable that something can come from nothing. From what we know about quantum mechanics, it's likely that this actually happens all the time. Can you claim, 13.5 billion years ago, that this is impossible?
?
2014-11-01 04:22:37 UTC
How can we say god has or has not a creator when we don't believe in god?



Mo

Atheist
Ron
2014-11-01 01:09:10 UTC
There is no such thing as a creator for an atheist. Theists claim that their creator created everything out of nothing and then claim atheists say the Big Bang created everything out of nothing. Can't you see they are both in the same place struggling with the same imponderables?

They are not so different...just choose different answers.
2014-11-01 01:16:31 UTC
It is common fallacious argument (categorical fallacy, straw man fallacy, begs the question fallacy) Atheists throw out there in an attempt to derail the Cosmological Argument.



The cosmological argument is everything that began to exist had to have a cause.



They reword the argument everything that exists had to have a cause (or creator) - Straw man fallacy.



This rewording assumes God had a beginning but fails to make the case for that claim (begs the question fallacy)



Of course since the material universe is physical and God is Spiritual the fit into different categories making the argument if God did not have a creator then the universe does not need a creator and example of the categorical fallacy..



Just one more evidence the assertion "there is no God" cannot be sustained without the use of one or more logical fallacies.
?
2014-11-01 02:05:39 UTC
Because they don't have the slightest idea of what we are talking about when we say the word "God". If they did, they wouldn't be heathens.
dylan
2014-11-01 01:09:09 UTC
Lol its like saying because I dont understand the big bang it all must be gods doing. Have you got any proof of what your claiming and also where do you get off think your right when you proberly havnt even read the whole bible. Its not all sunlight and rainbows darl.
?
2014-11-01 01:11:17 UTC
It comes from the argument that assumes everything has a creator in an attempt to shoehorn their god in. Why assume the universe is a god?
2014-11-01 01:39:17 UTC
they know better

they just can't think of anything else to stump with
?
2014-11-01 01:09:32 UTC
Cthulhu be praised
ROBERT P
2014-11-01 02:13:16 UTC
I do.


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