Do you believe in freedom of religion in America? What if the religion has leaders within the US who preach jihad against the host nation?

Question

I don't have a problem with Americans practicing whatever religion they want---but I'd like to think that if you were to hear anyone in your "church" encourage war upon fellow citizens you'd make sure that person was weeded out of your organization ASAP. And if you don't take it upon yourself to do that then you can’t really feel too surprised if one day you should suddenly find yourself Persona Non Grata. Please worship responsibly. God is Love.

Answer 1

In general yes, but it depends upon the religion.



For example, what if a religion offered two ways of going to heaven, one being if your good deeds out weigh your bad.  Who would be against that?  Such a religion would provide an incentive for its adherents to be good people.  But what if that same religion offered an alternative way of going to heaven for those who just aren't that good and no they'll never make it there by being good enough; that alternative being to die as a martyr while killing "enemies" of the religion's God, and more or less leaving it up to the individual to determine who those enemies were.  I would be against that religion because it advocates killing others, even innocent just because in someone's opinion they are an "enemy".  Guess what, I've just described Islam (Q 9:111).



There is no such thing as "radicalization" within Islam.  What's radical about wanting to go to heaven?  Consider the Saudi airman.  It appears at one time, he felt he was on a path toward heaven because he believed his good deeds outweighed his bad.  But at sometime, something changed where he felt his only chance at Paradise was option two.  Obviously he wouldn't announce that to the world.  And he would ensure he killed in a place where someone would kill him in the process so that he would die a martyr.  How many more innocent Americans have to die before we start waking up to what Islam is all about?  I fear it's going to take an WMD taking out an entire city before we even think about getting serious about this evil religion.



The US should be refuge for those who want to flee that vile religion, NOT a safe haven.

Answer 2

The FBI's TSDB would be on them like white on rice.



edit: Oh, and there's what's-her-name, raving again about the extinction of humanity due to religion when the truth is that we humans have existed for six million years WITH religion.

Answer 3

Religion is a very bad habit, a deadly habit, that the world needs to cure somehow, if humanity is to survive.  Religion will cause extinction, left to it's own devices.

Answer 4

Ideological communism has unfortunately influenced our educational system to a profound degree.



The founders were VERY clear exactly what the differences between 'genuine religion' and 'false religion' are and that there are NO protections provided under the Constitution for 'false religion.' 



They defined 'genuine religion' as any ideological establishment that honors ONLY something called 'natural liberty,' which is the form of liberty that comes directly from nature and nature's GOD, as opposed to the 'false liberties,' (government 'license' and criminal 'licentiousness'), which represent the corrupt influence of government and criminal enterprise, respectively.



'License' is special permissions or rights granted or sold by government. 'Licentiousness' is opportunities offered by criminals to violate ethics, morality or law. 'Genuine religion' does not allow either of these to infiltrate their social structures, or, upon discovery, will automatically oppose and purge them. 'False religion' either allows them or invites them into their social structures.  



So, by definition, false religion is a 'front' for either government or criminal influence, or both. Genuine religion is not. It is only genuine religion that enjoys Constitutional protections. 

Answer 5

"Freedom of Religion" does not mean that you can do anything you wish as long as you claim it's part of your religion.  It means you can believe pretty much anything you wish, but it doesn't follow that you can act on all of it.  It is perfectly legal for me to believe in human sacrifice, for example, but I can't practice it legally, and it might be a crime for me to try to whip up support for it. 





Hating the USA is legal, preaching ways and means of destroying it is not necessarily legal, it depends on what is being said, and if what is being said presents a credible threat. Obviously using one's religion to finance said destruction is not freedom of religion. You can't pass the basket in order to finance blowing up the Capitol Building or anything else. 

Answer 6

I only believe in the freedom of true religions, dear. For example the Christian faith that teaches the deep and important lesson of loving one another and being humble and meek. They should be free to do as they please, and even set the laws for us who can't follow sensible teachings.



I am not for the freedom of religions that want to harm or hurt or mock or belittle or oppress do anything else of any other kind of manner that goes against the love and peace that binds us all. They should face the full burnt of the law.

Answer 7

Preaching war against the host nation, regardless of what you call it, gives the host nation the right to protect itself through any means necessary.

Answer 8

That's kind of what the jehovah's witnesses do.



Their cult leaders should be in prison.

Answer 9

It would be the government's job to remove them from office. The law is applied regardless of religion. Pense went before congress and tried to get creationism into schools. It didn't work.

Answer 10

Freedom of religion does not inclued the right to kill anyone who disagrees with you

Answer 11

GOD doesn't (Galatians 1:6-9)!



Man does!



That's why there are 39.5K+ different "Christian" denominations that is only the CREATED religion of Christianity by



***ROME*** (((man))) catholic church.

Answer 12

Those so preaching are your 'wolves in sheep's clothing ', in reality,  VERY hard to go against.   You notice that wolves, like other vicious predators are smiling? 

Not at you, but their supporters. 



And you'd recognize it was jihad but they dress it up.



Don't you become the nuisance?   The problem? 

These things are carefully planned out,  and we're not able to know usually until it is too late?

Often those wolves have lots of money.

Think just how popular Jeffrey Epstein was, for how long?

And!  Those women do fail to mention how well paid they were, right?



Those wolves are charming,  we are not, TRUTH is not.



So, WE have to leave that place.  I wouldn't leave quietly but quite abruptly so I wouldn't be tarred and feathered for my next place.

Evil is very wily.

Not all see the wolf.

Very big problem. 

Answer 13

Yes, freedom of association as well.

Answer 14

1) Do you believe in freedom of religion in America?



Yes.





2) What if the religion has leaders within the US who preach jihad against the host nation?



That depends.



If they are preaching, "One day the government will be overthrown and our religion will rule"...that's fine.



If they are preaching, "YOU, the people of this religion, must overthrow the legal government"

then we have a case of inciting rebellion

(not sure of the exact terminology, but it's a crime)

and Federal laws apply.



The Supreme Court has additionally (or, relevantly) ruled that freedom of religion does not extend to religious organizations that are in an of themselves terrorist organizations. Example: Aum Shinrikyo





3) but I'd like to think that if you were to hear anyone in your "church" encourage war upon fellow citizens you'd make sure that person was weeded out of your organization ASAP.



That person should not be merely dismissed from the religious organization.

That person should be reported to the authorities.

Answer 15

Yes, but I mainly believe in freedom *from* religion. Religion is a cancer on society that with any luck will be stamped out in future generations.