Creationists, would you please consider this?

Question

I appreciate this is rather long, but I've tried to break it down, with decent paragraphing...

Charles Darwin first published his "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life. For the sixth edition of 1872, the short title was changed to "The Origin of Species".
In the Scientific community, Evolution is agreed as ongoing, though hard to spot. We can't see an hour hand move around a clock face, but it surely does. We don't notice the slow rise of the Moon in the sky, but it happens. Such is Evolution. I often see Creationists say "Ahh but Evolution is ONLY A THEORY" - but it is the Way of scientists to log a Theory as opposed to a Law - leaving room for others to find confirmation OR OPPOSITION to their work.
Now consider the recent OPERA physicts in Italy, who THOUGHT that they had observed a number of neutrinos arriving A TINY FRACTION of a second earlier than they SHOULD be able to, in travelling over 450 miles. They threw their data out to the world, asking for others to check their working, since what they had found SEEMED to be in conflict with Albert Einsteins' work. After an investigation, it seems that an equipment flaw may be to blame.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/faulty-wire-error-blamed-faster-light-particles-233455135.html


Now, at length, my point is this. If THIS is the open-door spirit in which Science conducts itself, in relation to a TINY apparent violation of an accepted law, THEN don't you think it odd, that NO-ONE in Science posits an alternative to Evolution? As soon as someone does, they will rock the Natural Sciences to their very core, and certainly take the Nobel Prize for discovering the Great Truth of Life. Ask yourself, why isn't this happenning? You trust Science, for the electricity coming out of your wall socket, for the science that led a Geologist to go find crude oil under the ground, to power your car, to place satellites in orbit around the Earth to run your GPS system... Yet you believe that there is some HUGE conspiracy in the Scientific community, that Evolution is a LIE, but we somehow MUST sell it, just to discredit Christianity?

Just ask yourself, is that really likely? We value Evolution, because we have much evidence for it, and none to the contrary. Fame and huge wealth awaits those who prove otherwise.

Answer 1

There's a flaw in your primary assumption.



Creationists don't think.



Edit: Fletcher, thanks for proving my point. Excellent way to completely change the topic and not even address the question.

Not to mention it was a great display of Pascal's Wager. *drink*

Answer 2

@Riley Fletcher - To be honest mate, I'd sooner take my chance and live my life exactly how I want to than live by a book that has no credible evidence, also the world was built in 6 days, pah I think not, also he fucked that with a huge design flaw that is asteroids, volcanoes and earthquakes the evil bastard, if he does exist, he should be the fucker who goes to hell.



EDIT: On another note, if someone believes in god then fair enough, I respect their decision, but why can't they respect my belief and love of science and evolution.



Also they can't hold down a decent argument, they say that god this and god that, and you say where is the proof and they just keep changing the subject and preaching god this and god that again.



I respect your decisions christians, and that goes for all religions, so all I ask in return is you respect mine.



@Faithful Chul - Sorry but I find it quite funny how you are saying 'science is the what, god is the why'.



Why was there scientific repression caused by religion then, and also no christian is capable of arguing the existence of god, how do you know that christianity wasn't a hoax made by some hippy moron who probably wanted to make a quick buck anyway started preaching that story, and that's all it is, is a story nothing more, nothing less.



I wonder when we'll have scientologists giving their 10 cents worth, I actually hope they do, could be worth a laugh:P

Answer 3

Few "thinking Christians" (and yes there ARE a few of us with brains) do not think that in the "Scientific community, that Evolution is a LIE, but we somehow MUST sell it, just to discredit Christianity". Thinking Christians say things more like, "how do I reconcile the evidence for evolution with my faith?" The problem we have often is that there is nothing (yes, I said it - NOTHING) "scientific" about creationism. Creation at its very core must rely on the "supernatural". Anything that exists outside of the natural is not observable and cannot be approached with the scientific method. So by all accounts, it is not even plausible for a Creationist to ask of an Evolutionist to put their "theory" on the scientific table. This hinders those who believe in Creationism from being respected in the scientific community. What if tomorrow, evolution was COMPLETELY proven 100% to the point that it was called LAW and every Christian on the face of the earth had to admit it as true (I know... it'll never happen, they'd still believe their fairy tales, but just pretend with me). The result would be a lot of Christians having to re-approach their faith. They would STILL be reconciling their beliefs with the world they live in. However, what if God popped his head out of the clouds and said, "HEY!!! I DID THIS!" The next day, evolutionists all around the world would be trying to scientifically diagnose how this strange anomaly occurred.



Just sayin.

Answer 4

Lol - I'm a christian and fully admit that the bible was written by man - but it was INSPIRED by god, before you say i'm turning my back on religion.

I fully agree with evolutionary theory AND creation. It's the same to me, despite this huge and everlasting argument.

What I'm saying is, God created everything using evolution and science etc - I've always said Science is the how, God is the why.

When the bible was written, they didn't have a clue about evolution, or about how the world was round. They believed God did it and were inspired to say so - but not understanding, they wrote that he made everything as it is now.

I don't believe this - I bet God would want to see how many different animals and plants he could make and what ones would thrive in this world, and evolution is the perfect solution. After all, all the animals and plants that have ever lived on this planet when you think about it is a huge amount. I think i read somewhere that 95% of all species that have lived on earth is now extinct.

Evolution is great as it gives rise to so many wonderful and diverse species that survive in different ways in different places.

So, don't judge me, but as a christian, I agree with you.

Evolution is right - the evidence is too blatant to miss, but I believe God made it so.

Thanks for your question - curiosity rises to great knowledge in some cases :-)

Answer 5

Congratulations - I am amazed you managed to phrase that in so SHORT a space - normally I just can't be bothered wasting so many words on people that have so few braincells to be able to follow it.



Yes - Evolution IS a theory and YES it is open to question,but NO ONE save theists does so - because it is largely an accepted fact - moreso than quantum physics or what happens in a black hole.



So I don't get why theists have to spend so much time attacking what is more than likely the case - it only goes to show how shaky their faith really is.

Answer 6

The problem is that as long as they feel it is a threat to their religion creationists will never accept evolution. You can explain it all day long. They just refuse to listen.

Answer 7

@Riley Fletcher: Look up Pascal's wager, then try to understand how you're using it and how it's not a serious argument.

Answer 8

You have a very good presentation, but there is a major problem.

Creationists don't have brains.

Answer 9

Bored

Answer 10

I am no scientist, but I would like to say this.



If I am wrong about God existing, than I will die and turn into dirt once and I would be gone.



If you are wrong about God existing, you are going to burn and die in hell because you messed up.



I have nothing to lose except getting some pleasure out of my 50-100 years of life that I could've gotten if I didn't try to live up to God's expectations. You have your eternity and your soul to lose.