Question:
Do black holes defy the laws of physics? (ie laws of science)?
slow_hand_78
2008-06-14 00:00:49 UTC
just wondering if people who only follow what science tells them can explain their stance on black holes.
Fifteen answers:
2008-06-14 00:05:58 UTC
They are a prediction of Einstein's General Theory of Relativity.
Wolfechu II
2008-06-14 00:05:39 UTC
We don't know. They have certain effects that we can measure, beyond that, they're beyond physics. That's why they're called singularities; like the Big Bang monobloc, the rules no longer apply. Not only don't we know, we can't know.



Fortunately, this means beyond the obvious gravimetric effect, what happens in a black hole doesn't matter; it can't affect the outside universe.



Edit: Black Holes weren't 'discredited' for years, Stephen Hawking was one of the first to write seriously about them in his thesis in the 1970s; they were merely unproven until some time afterwards, not discredited. Discredited implies the scientific community disliked the idea. Higgs Bosons are still unproven (at present), but no-one considers them discredited.
2008-06-14 00:04:48 UTC
i thought they were fitting well into the recent physics and all...



at last the black holes do not screw around and do not create the Earth to be the center of universe.



they are observable too, though not directly. Anyway i have not heard of the light gravitational diffraction at the edges of God's presence.



surprisingly, science in contrary to religion is not stable but flexible and follows the advances in the research. it also can clearlz afdmitt that it does NOT have answers to certain questions - which does not make science harmless. Could you probably state at least ONE fact that would prove the black holes are denying laws of physics?
dyslexic dog
2008-06-14 00:10:18 UTC
Black holes exist, and therefore do not violate the laws of science. They are just very dense and have an extreme gravitational pull.



My stance on black holes? Err...What is your stance of Jupiter?



Black holes (like Jupiter) do exist. I do not doubt that fact, but then again, I am not an astromoner.



My stance on the Muse CD Black Holes and Revelations is quite high, however particularly the song Supermassive Black Hole. Weird!
OPM
2008-06-18 18:29:36 UTC
Black Holes are a part of the theory of physics, they do not defy it. It is a misunderstanding of what a singularity is. What science cannot do is describe what is on the other side of the singularity because a Black Hole has maximal entropy for the size. It doesn't allow information to escape.
2008-06-14 00:07:44 UTC
No, they do not. Go to http://www.physics.org for more information. Yes, black holes are powerful enough to pull in light, but now evidence shows it does come out the other side.



There is much to be discovered. And I am constantly amused by non-curious theists who feel science is an either-or position.



Possibly the daft Fred Hoyle discredited black holes, but his marbles fell out long before his death and rolled under the same refrigerator as any televangelists when it comes to physics.



The only people I have heard discrediting black holes are not scientists, but theologians terrified of reality.
2008-06-14 00:31:19 UTC
Black holes defy the limits of the human ability to rationally express phenomena that occur beyond the event horizon.

The laws remain intact we simply have no abstract construct to describe them with.
Christopher Michael
2008-06-14 00:30:48 UTC
New studies have come out stating that massive black holes exist at the center of every galaxy, hence the spinning stars and the bright light in the center caused by the gravitational pull compacting light particles. I believe in black holes and I believe in science but I don't need proof to tell me that god exists. The chances that the world would mesh in such a perfect way is next to nil. God made it the way it is and he did it for a reason. Science doesn't defy God. Scientists defy God.
2016-11-07 01:42:54 UTC
hi, effective, great question. God can not do the impossible, yet He would enable the impossible to take place in time, or in yet another greater length(as an occasion), wherein all circles have 4 facets. to help interior the assumption, think of of the fourth length being a line in the time of the x y z axis (a corner) making yet another precise perspective with all of them. We call the regulations of physics "immutable", and that's an help in thinking, yet not in know-how God. to ask, "can God defy the regulations of physics" is like asking an elephant if he's perplexing to swallow. desire this facilitates!
Guess who's going to Hell?
2008-06-14 00:29:26 UTC
Black holes were a conclusion FROM the laws of physics, not in spite of them.
2008-06-14 00:09:12 UTC
Well seeing as Mr. Einstein postulated their existence PRIOR TO ONE EVER BEING FOUND OR EVEN HYPOTHESIZED by appealing to physical law, I'd say black holes indeed fit well.



If this is another creationist "well you cant go to a black hole and see a black hole so la la la la la la la la" arguments just please save it. It's too late for that crap.





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No. Discredited means that there is actual evidence to positively deny the hypothesis of their existence. Being skeptical or concluding that there IS NOT YET ENOUGH evidence to conclude their existence doesn't equate to discrediting.
October
2008-06-14 00:05:56 UTC
Black holesdo not defy the laws of physics. They illustrate Einstien's theory of gravity.
reporters should die
2008-06-14 00:07:41 UTC
Black holes were PREDICTED by physicists,long before they were discovered.Jesus predicted that anything asked in his name SHALL,not maybe,not might...SHALL,be granted.It didn't take long to discover a black hole,I still remember the 1st one off the top of my head...Cygnus x-1.It's been 2000 years since Jesus.Safe to say his prediction failed miserably.Why don't you like the truth?
2008-06-14 00:06:22 UTC
obviously not or else the idea of black holes would have been discredited.
Iason Ouabache
2008-06-14 00:15:42 UTC
So your position is: black holes are strange therefore God exists? Doesn't seem like a very strong argument to me.


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