Question:
Islamic hate. Can people, who have never been a part of religious fundamentalism, ever truely understand it?
anonymous
2007-12-14 10:02:36 UTC
Im an atheist now, but I was once a part of fundy usa. I will never forget the feeling, many months after being "saved", that feeling of "us vs. them". All of a sudden my vocabulary started including phrases like "of the world" and "heathen".

The hallmarks of fundamentalism have a similar ring across the religious landscape, but the ramifications arent the same. For example, I distinctly remember being made to feel separate from a sinful heathen society but the consequences of this were limited to my feelings alone. I never felt prompted to kill any disbelievers. I just felt morally superior to the sinful worldly world.

To really understand Islamic hate, not only do you need to study the doctrines and history of Islam, but you need to really understand that feeling of fundamentalist separation.

Most people dont understand that fundamentalism is manistream in Islam and that this type of fundamentalism doesnt breed "save the heathen" but "kill the filthy heathen".
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anonymous
2007-12-14 10:21:30 UTC
You are absolutely correct.

Take for example the beautiful girl who was strangled by her father here in Canada a few weeks ago for example.

She was "experimenting" with not wearing the hijab. She wore it at home but at school she would sometimes take it off to show off her hair.

For this, her father strangled her. And the first reaction? the islamic community said it was "a victory for allah" and then went on to say that "this is not about religion".

Lies, nothing but lies.
anonymous
2007-12-14 10:59:03 UTC
The UK er "government" has set up a 2,000,000 Muslim community in the UK, without even mentioning it to the indigenous UK people . In fact if you mention it you get into trouble for "racism" even though Islam is not a race.



I am now concerned that the UK has given up and we are at the end of the life of a great nation. The future is an unrecognisable over populated work island complete with an army of foreign criminals.
anonymous
2007-12-14 10:07:35 UTC
I've spent some time on Islamic chat rooms.



(Had about 15 accounts banned, actually)



Those people love to hate. Make no mistake.



That is actually the backbone of fundamentalism, actually. Being a part of a team or "tribe" is a great feeling. I used to be a Christian like this, also.



It is very reassuring to feel that you're definitely "right" all the time, and that you've got all the answers.
anonymous
2007-12-14 10:11:47 UTC
Half my family is Catholic, half Islamic so I'm well read on both. Throughout history, Islam has been more fierce in terms of the "Them Vs. Us" battle, even up to present day. But as society's faith begins to become empty and hollow in recent years, you notice a SHARP decline in those willing to kill, let alone die for the cause.
anonymous
2007-12-14 15:22:52 UTC
It's difficult for people who haven't been taught to hate to truly understand it, unless they've had a really bad experience. The Koran teaches it though, well enough that Muslims even hate each other...see the Ramadan section for the Sunni/Shiite love fest.
joetta
2016-05-24 02:59:26 UTC
Thankfully yes for their sakes and mine. Believing that one has the power to truly understand another human being for more than a few fleeting moments is the ultimate arrogant delusion. Besides understanding is overrated,but tolerance is an unlimited pass to Club Humanity.
michelle
2007-12-14 10:12:09 UTC
To be honest, as a Christian, I never felt any "us vs. anyone" until I found this site. I have never felt morally superior to anyone- I worry about my relationship between God and myself.
anonymous
2007-12-14 10:07:30 UTC
You are right. I have experinced Islamic attitudes first hand. Go to pro-islam websites. Go to chat rooms with a muslim name and you will see what this guy is trying to say
anonymous
2007-12-14 10:12:33 UTC
Pity is that the Koran, itself, recognizes Jesus' Sovereignty and even says that the Holy Spirit was with Him!?



I've just posted a question asking the Muslims here to deny this is from the Koran and asked them why they go against the Word of God?



Let's see what Answers I get.



Peace.



ST
anonymous
2007-12-14 10:12:44 UTC
yes we are the black people (nigers )now a day

you can say that we are criminals , you can say that we are terrorists

but is this true?you would not even care because you just want some one to blame

black people or jews or muslims ........

they are the same to you

raciest
Happily Happy
2007-12-14 10:11:34 UTC
Hate is started from christians when they attacked and took our lands and resources 200 years ago and contunued till today.

Why should we hate you, you people have contunued genocide of palestinians muslims for 60 years.
anonymous
2007-12-14 15:24:22 UTC
Praise be to Allaah.



You have done well by realizing that the Islamic life is the best life that a person could live. This is a great truth which few people understand, let alone become convinced of. Allaah has stated that in more than one place in his Book.



Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):



“Whoever works righteousness — whether male or female — while he (or she) is a true believer (of Islamic Monotheism) verily, to him We will give a good life (in this world with respect, contentment and lawful provision), and We shall pay them certainly a reward in proportion to the best of what they used to do (i.e. Paradise in the Hereafter)”



[al-Nahl 16:97]



And Allaah has stated that whoever turns away from faith in Allaah and remembrance of Him exposes himself to a life of hardship and misery, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):



“But whosoever turns away from My Reminder (i.e. neither believes in this Qur’aan nor acts on its teachings) verily, for him is a life of hardship, and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Resurrection.”



125. He will say: ‘O my Lord! Why have you raised me up blind, while I had sight (before).’



126. (Allaah) will say: ‘Like this: Our Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) came unto you, but you disregarded them (i.e. you left them, did not think deeply in them, and you turned away from them), and so this Day, you will be neglected (in the Hell‑fire, away from Allaah’s Mercy).’



127. And thus do We requite him who transgresses beyond bounds [i.e. commits the great sins and disobeys his Lord (Allaah) and believes not in His Messengers, and His revealed Books, like this Qur’aan], and believes not in the Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of his Lord; and the torment of the Hereafter is far more severe and more lasting”



[Ta-Ha 20:124-127]



Once you have understood this, and it has become deeply rooted in your heart and you are at peace with it, then you will know that Allaah has not created this universe, with the earth and the heavens, the seas and the rivers, the mountains and plains, the oases and the deserts, except for your sake, O poor, weak creature. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):



“He it is Who created for you all that is on earth”

[al-Baqarah 2:29]



Then you will realize that the great purpose for which you exist in this world is to worship your Lord and Creator, Who has created all things well:



“And I (Allaah) created not the jinn and mankind except that they should worship Me (Alone)”



[al-Dhaariyaat 51:56 – interpretation of the meaning]



He has only created life and death in order to test His slaves in their performance of this duty of worship:



“Who has created death and life that He may test you which of you is best in deed. And He is the All‑Mighty, the Oft‑Forgiving”



[al-Mulk 67:2 – interpretation of the meaning]



Then Allaah honoured His slaves and promised those who do good in this world that in the Hereafter theirs will be Paradise as vast as the heavens and the earth, in which is that which no eye has ever seen, no ear has ever heard, nor has it ever entered the mind of man. By the same token, He has warned those who do evil and neglect His rights over them that theirs will be a blazing Fire, in which they will neither live nor die, in which He has created all kinds of punishments and torments, hearing of which would turn a child’s hair white, let alone seeing them and suffering them. We ask Allaah to keep us and you safe from that… ameen.



Once you know this with certainty, then you will know that succeeding in this test is a serious matter which can only be achieved with a measure of effort and hardship which requires patience and forbearance. But this is hardship which passes swiftly and difficulty which soon comes to an end, because it is followed by eternal rest and happiness. So what is an hour of hardship and a moment of pain when compared to that eternal delight. We ask Allaah to bless us and you with His grace and Paradise…ameen.



You should also note – may Allaah guide you – that the more religious commitment becomes something strange and the fewer people there are who truly adhere to it – as is the situation nowadays – the more difficult it becomes to remain steadfast. It is hard to be different from the vast majority of people. Hence Allaah in His wisdom increases the reward of the sincere believers who remain steadfast in adhering to the truth, those who give precedence to pleasing Him over everything else and sacrifice that which is most precious to them for the sake of achieving that. In Saheeh Muslim (145) it is narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Islam started as something strange and will go back to being something strange as it began. So glad tidings to the strangers.”



In Sunan al-Tirmidhi (3058) it is narrated from Abu Tha’labah al-Khushani (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “After you there will come days during which being patient will be like holding on to a live coal. The one who strives during those days will have a reward like that of fifty men who strive as you do.” According to another report: It was said: “O Messenger of Allaah, the reward of fifty men like them or like us?” He said: “No, the reward of fifty men like you.” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Targheeb wa’l-Tarheeb, 3172



These ahaadeeth and others indicate that at the end of time, there will be many evil and corrupt people, and few who are good and righteous and fear Allaah. That is because there will be so much fitnah (temptation and tribulation) and because sin and temptation will be so widespread that adhering to Islam will become something strange and may even become something strange among the Muslims themselves.



These ahaadeeth also indicate that adherence to Islam is not something easy, rather it is like holding on to a live coal. What will help a person to do that, after guidance from Allaah, is being patient in adhering to this path until he meets his Lord not being negligent or heedless, so he will meet a Lord Who is pleased with him and not angry with him, and will give him a great and much-multiplied reward. If a person truly understands this, he will regard as insignificant whatever he encounters for the sake of that which is waiting for him with his Lord, by the will and grace of Allaah.



What we have said applies if you feel that things are too difficult for you and you fear that your patience is weak and that you are slipping and not remaining steadfast.



However, if you are feeling that you have no hope of spreading this Islamic life that you live among those who are around you, and bringing them back to Islam as you are obliged to do, because of the opposition and resistance that you encounter, you should know that every step that you take in that direction is a victory and an act of charity. A good word is a charity, and you do not know when a word that you have spoken may take effect in the heart of the one who hears it and be of some benefit to him, even if that is after some time. So you should not give up hope that it will do some good one day.



“And when a community among them said: “Why do you preach to a people whom Allaah is about to destroy or to punish with a severe torment?” (The preachers) said: “In order to be free from guilt before your Lord (Allaah), and perhaps they may fear Allaah”



[al-A’raaf 7:164]



Beware of letting despair enter your heart. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):



“Certainly no one despairs of Allaah’s Mercy, except the people who disbelieve”



[Yoosuf 12:87]



Beware of despair for it is misguidance:



“And who despairs of the Mercy of his Lord except those who are astray?”



[al-Hijr 15:56]



Remember that your efforts will never be lost, so long as you remain on the right path. The point where your life ends, this is your destination:



“He who emigrates (from his home) in the Cause of Allaah, will find on earth many dwelling places and plenty to live by. And whosoever leaves his home as an emigrant unto Allaah and His Messenger, and death overtakes him, his reward is then surely, incumbent upon Allaah. And Allaah is Ever Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful”



[al-Nisa’ 4:100]



Then will come the turn of those who come after you, to take the flag from you and continue the rest of the journey. How many of this ummah are still left: “Allaah will continue to plant new people in this religion and use them in His obedience.” Narrated by Ibn Maajah and classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Sunan Ibn Maajah, 1/5.



Be certain of the promise of Allaah to this ummah of support and help:



“And indeed We have written in Az‑Zaboor [i.e. all the revealed Holy Books the Tawraat (Torah), the Injeel (Gospel), the Psalms, the Qur’aan] after (We have already written in) Al‑Lawh Al‑Mahfooz (the Book that is in the heaven with Allaah) that My righteous slaves shall inherit the land (i.e. the land of Paradise)”



[al-Anbiya’ 21:105]



“This matter (i.e., Islam) will reach as far as the day and night reach, and Allaah will not leave any house of mud or hair but He will bring this religion into it … and Allaah will bring glory to Islam and humiliation to kufr.” Narrated by Ahmad and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 32.



I urge you to remain steadfast in your religious commitment and not to turn away from it despite the many fitnahs and temptations and the many obstacles. Remember that the good end will be for those who fear Allaah (the pious).



You should strive to find all means that will help you to remain steadfast in adhering to the religion of Allaah. On this website you will find an essay which describes ways and means of remaining steadfast in Islam. I advise you to read it and study it.



In conclusion I would like to leave you with these great verses from the Book of Allaah which He revealed to His slave Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to be a healing for the believers’ hearts and a remedy for their ills. Read them and ponder them, and if you can look up the commentary on them in one of the books of Tafseer such as the Tafseer of Shaykh ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Sa’di or Tafseer Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) then that will be good.



Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):



“Or think you that you will enter Paradise without such (trials) as came to those who passed away before you? They were afflicted with severe poverty and ailments and were so shaken that even the Messenger and those who believed along with him said, ‘When (will come) the Help of Allaah?’ Yes! Certainly, the Help of Allaah is near!”



[al-Baqarah 2:214]



“Alif‑Laam‑Meem.



[These letters are one of the miracles of the Qur’aan, and none but Allaah (Alone) knows their meanings.]



2. Do people think that they will be left alone because they say: “We believe,” and will not be tested.



3. And We indeed tested those who were before them. And Allaah will certainly make (it) known (the truth of) those who are true, and will certainly make (it) known (the falsehood of) those who are liars, (although Allaah knows all that before putting them to test)”



[al-‘Ankaboot 29:1-3]



“And for those who believe (in the Oneness of Allaah and the other articles of Faith) and do righteous good deeds, surely, We shall make them enter with (in the entrance of) the righteous (in Paradise).



10. Of mankind are some who say: ‘We believe in Allaah.’ But if they are made to suffer for the sake of Allaah, they consider the trial of mankind as Allaah’s punishment; and if victory comes from your Lord, (the hypocrites) will say: ‘Verily, we were with you (helping you).’ Is not Allaah Best Aware of what is in the breasts of the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)”



[al-‘Ankaboot 29:9-10]



“And among mankind is he who worships Allaah as it were upon the edge (i.e. in doubt): if good befalls him, he is content therewith; but if a trial befalls him he turns back on his face (i.e. reverts to disbelief after embracing Islam). He loses both this world and the Hereafter. That is the evident loss”



[al-Hajj 22:11]



“Verily, those who say: ‘Our Lord is Allaah (Alone),’ and then they stand firm, on them the angels will descend (at the time of their death) (saying): ‘Fear not, nor grieve! But receive the glad tidings of Paradise which you have been promised!’”



[Fussilat 41:30]



“Verily, those who say: ‘Our Lord is (only) Allaah,’ and thereafter stand firm (on the Islamic Faith of Monotheism), on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.



14. Such shall be the dwellers of Paradise, abiding therein (forever) a reward for what they used to do”



[al-Ahqaaf 46:13-14]



And there are other verses which encourage us to remain steadfast in our religious commitment and describe what Allaah has promised to the sincere believers. The Book of Allaah is filled with verses which state this and explain it in the most eloquent manner. So I advise you to read and ponder the Qur’aan. By Allaah’s Leave you will find in it the best help in remaining patient and not despairing or finding the way too long. For this world will quickly come to an end, then each person will find that which he has sent on ahead with his Lord; it is good, all well and good, but if it is bad then the outcome will be bad:



“On the Day when every person will be confronted with all the good he has done, and all the evil he has done, he will wish that there were a great distance between him and his evil. And Allaah warns you against Himself (His punishment) and Allaah is full of kindness to (His) slaves”



[Aal ‘Imraan 3:30]



I ask Allaah to open your heart to goodness and to make you steadfast in adhering to the truth until You meet Him. May he divert all evil away from you, for He is All-Hearing, Ever Near. And Allaah knows best.



May Allaah send blessings and peace upon His slave and Prophet Muhammad and upon his family and companions.



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