Question:
Dear Anti-Christs and Atheists?
Rico
2011-12-08 01:14:12 UTC
1 Did you read whole in the King James Bible? (before you judge on Christians)
#2 Why did you choice to against Jesus Christ and God? (Are you Theophobia?)
#3 How do you know if Jesus Christ and God is false? (Did you read Gospel in King James Bible?)
#4 Where do you learn if Jesus Christ and God is false? (I believe that group of Theophobia influenced you.)
#5 Did you know that scientist cannot prove big bang and science theory, they're guessed.

Jesus said, "Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid". (John 14:27) KJV
Seventeen answers:
Pedestal 42
2011-12-08 01:30:15 UTC
1) Good grief no. I read the whole bible, and studied much if it in depth, in better versions, with some reference to the KJV as a historic translation.



2) I didn't. My studies and other reading led me to conclude that the *concept* of Jesus Christ and God was mistaken. Not that Jesus and God existed but I was gong to defy them.

That would be like having the brains of someone who was going to try thinking traffic cops didn't exist so he could go speeding without any risk.



3) Studies in the bible, its history and that of the Christian church. Work in other areas as they interacted with this: psychology, history, philosophy, epistemology, physics, cosmology...

Why the obsession with the King James Bible? Apart from anything else, it cannot be a good translation any more simply because English has moved so much in the last four hundred years. What was a good fit into English then is in many places no longer so.



4) See above. I've never encountered theophobia. I can't help what you believe. I started my studies only aiming to be able to teach Christianity with greater precision. I didn't at all expect to find what I did.



5) I know why science arrived at the idea of the "big bang", and why it survived a quarter of a century of *scientific* attack as the underdog model in cosmology.

You are using "guessed" in a very peculiar way.
Victor B
2011-12-08 01:20:15 UTC
It is passages such as Judges 19:22-30 that made me disgusted with the pile of dung the Bible is full of.



PS: I'm waiting on the dragon that Revelation promises.



And it had damn well better be a RED dragon. A five headed black dragon won't do at all.



Edit: I see you found the passage. If you have no problem with mass rape, offering of virgin daughters as appeasement, cutting up dead bodies to make some kind of point(?), then there's nothing I can say to you that will change your mind.



I'm sure you know how Judges continue. Massacring the almost whole Benjamite tribe because they didn't want to give up the criminals(including women, children and livestock), then forgiving them after they're almost all dead (how nice of them), then massacring ANOTHER entirely unrelated tribe because the now-forgiven Benjamites had no wives (how very..thoughtful?), killing ALL except virgin women, then giving them to the Benjamites.. and so on



Honestly, you expect me to read all this crap and not bat an eyelid to the injustice, violence and genocide, while thinking it's all of God's plan?



What the hell. Are you serious?



I read the Bible. It's full of crap. I stopped believing after. What's *your* excuse?
hobojobo
2011-12-08 01:32:01 UTC
1. No, I didn't have to. I get the gist of it

2. grammar? Anyways, I didn't go against them, they were never any part of my life so your quesetion is assuming something which is already false.

3. Gospel is true because gospel says it's true... circular logic. I don't think JC is false, he was just either some crazy person who thought he was the son of god, or he was no one. God is false because I don't see him anywhere. He's as true as Zeus, Allah, Odin, etc etc.

4. My parents never indoctrinated me. I learned about them in school but it never took off. I don't know where you get this theophobia idea and how it can suddenly explain all of atheism. Logic prevails in atheism, not some fear of deities.

5. Science is cornering god further and further and further away from having any part in our explanations for what's around us. Many years ago rainbows were explained by god... Just because something hasn't been proven yet, it does not mean god did it.



I'm sorry I wasted my time on you, you are clearly a lost hope of logic
2011-12-08 01:31:16 UTC
1- Yes, actually, I have.

#2- Because God/Jesus does not fulfill his own written promises.

#3- Because plain reality contradicts the "word of God".

#4- I figured it out all by myself.

#5- Yes, but they are highly educated guesses, which is more reliable than the religous establishment's hunches.
?
2011-12-08 07:46:30 UTC
First, the Big Bang Theory:

A scientific theory is a unifying concept that explains a large body of data. It is a hypothesis that has withstood the test of time and the challenge of opposing views. The Big Bang Theory is supported by extensive data. Six prominent facts are:



** The red shift of almost all galaxies, getting greater as their distance increases.

— This shows that the galaxies are flying away from each other, at greater speeds at greater distances.

** The cosmic microwave background radiation.

— This is a remnant of the radiation from the Big Bang, and has cooled over time to the exact temperature predicted.

** The variations in the cosmic microwave background radiation.

— These variations fit theoretical predictions, and were caused by quantum differences near the start of Big Bang.

** The proportions of the lightest elements and isotopes.

— This helps show that the calculations for nuclear interactions immediately following the Big Bang are correct.

** The changes in galaxies as we look further away (and thus back in time), with distant galaxies more primitive and having fewer heavy elements.

— This shows some of the changes in the universe since the Big Bang, and confirms the deep time of the universe.

** The change in the apparent speed of type 1a supernova as we look back in time, with distant supernova exploding more slowly.

— This shows that the light has been stretched out by the expansion of space over billions of years.



Positing a god to supposedly answer a question solves nothing. It just stops you from asking more questions.



Now, Jesus:

All reliable evidence points to Jesus Christ being just a myth. There is no reliable evidence that Jesus even existed, and significant evidence that he didn't. The evidence is in the Bible, the other religions of the time, and the lack of writings about Jesus by historians of the time.



The story of Jesus can be shown to be just a myth cobbled together out of prophesy and stories from the Old Testament and previous gods and myths -- created in the 40's and 50's by Paul of Tarsus (who exhibited evidence of epilepsy and had delusions of Christ talking to him), the other apostles, the unknown authors of the gospels in the 70's or later, and many other people. The reliable evidence for this is overwhelming.



Paul and the other epistle writers don't know any biographical details of Jesus' life, or even the time of his earthly existence. They don't refer to Bethlehem, Nazareth, Galilee, Calvary or Golgotha — or any pilgrimages to what should have been holy sites of Jesus' life. They also don't mention any miracles that Jesus was supposed to have worked, his virgin birth, his trial, the empty tomb, his moral teachings. To them Jesus was largely a sky-god, who existed in the spiritual past.



If Jesus had actually existed, Paul would have written about his life, disciples, and teachings. Paul did not write about any of this. Paul wrote (in Romans 16:25-26, Galatians 1:16) that he knew Jesus through revelation, which is another term for fantasy. We can also tell that people were accusing Paul of lying, because he attempted to defend himself in Romans 3:5-8.



If Jesus had actually existed, the gospels would have been written in first person format. Instead, they were written in third person fiction format like a Harry Potter story, with Matthew and Luke extensively plagiarizing from Mark.



If Jesus had actually existed, at least one of the approximately 30 local historians of the first century would have written about him. No historian of the first century (including Josephus) wrote about him or his disciples.



Therefore Jesus didn't exist.



The Jesus story also shows extensive similarities to other myths of the time (especially Dionysus, Mithra, and Horus). Some early Christians attributed this to Satan who went back in time and created the religions that "copied" Christianity.



Jesus is worshiped on Sunday because he is a sun god, like Mithra, Zeus/Jupiter, Horus, Attis, Dionysus, Adonis, Tammuz, Hercules, Perseus, Bacchus, Apollo, Helios, and Sol Invictus -- whose birthdays are also on the old winter solstice of December 25, when the sun is “reborn.”



There were more than a dozen other deities and saviors who were resurrected after violent deaths -- Mithra, Osiris/Serapis, Inanna/Ishtar, Horus, Perseus, Bacchus, Attis, Hermes, Adonis, Hercules/Heracles, Tammuz, Asclepius, and Prometheus. Christianity just told the story the best, and managed to get control of the government under Constantine.



For much more evidence, see the links.

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Janian
2011-12-08 01:18:36 UTC
1. Yes read various Bibles



2. I don't 'go against' Jesus or god, I don't believe in them. Do you go against Superman?



3. There is no evidence for any god and the Christian god is contradictory.



4. I read the Bible, that taught me.



5. The Big Bang has more evidence than anything else at the moment, so for now I'll stick with the scientists.
Mister Chartreuse
2011-12-08 01:19:55 UTC
You want me to read the whole King James Bible before I tell you Christianity is bogus. Ok, I'll do it as soon as you read Charles Darwin's "The Origin Of Species" and get a PhD in astrophysics.



Fair?
?
2011-12-08 01:31:36 UTC
I don't need to read your entire worm-eaten tome to know that the Earth wasn't made in seven days.



But it does have some howlers, talking donkeys, pi equaling three and a dude who saved some angels from butseks only to run off to the hills and have a drunken incestuous fling with his daughters!
2011-12-08 01:22:07 UTC
Er, dude, not to burst your holy bubble or anything, but, to be an 'Anti-Christ' you kind of have to believe in 'Christ'.



An on your reasoning #5, did you know that Christians cannot prove the Bible to be true? Nor has it been proven false, of course, but, all in due time.



So, honestly, stop shoving your religion down other peoples throats, it makes me gag.
gibbers
2011-12-08 01:22:11 UTC
and i if my enemy strikings me on the left cheek - i should turn and that him strike me on the right



it goes something like that i dont know the verse name but you get my meaning



jesus christ was a rebel, a rebel in its trueest form, he brought change and if jesus was alive today there is a could chance he would be against the church
?
2011-12-08 01:18:43 UTC
1. Yes Twice

2. Because I realized it was all bullshit

3. I don't. I have always said I don't believe in god.

4. As 3.

5. Nor can you prove creationism, but the big bang is more plausible.
?
2011-12-08 01:24:03 UTC
Honestly answer this question:



In what way does your God have more legitimacy than Brahman, Zeus, and Odin?
2011-12-08 01:17:05 UTC
I'm a ex Atheist now a Buddhist.



1 - I don't read religious books

2 - They are obviously myths

3 - A man in the sky ? obvious

4 - are you scared to say fake ?

5 - whatever



go die in a hole.
?
2011-12-08 01:16:23 UTC
"#5 Did you know that scientist cannot prove big bang and science theory, they're guessed. "



...........
2011-12-08 01:17:55 UTC
All gods are myths and your holy book is a joke.
2011-12-08 01:19:16 UTC
Hello, I am Tracy Jordan.



EAT MY CHIKEN!
2011-12-08 01:18:21 UTC
That stuff is fake.


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