Question:
Can you as a Christian help me understand the verse, what you bind on earth is bound in heaven?
2011-07-19 09:22:43 UTC
and what you loosed on earth is loosed in heaven?

This is the only verse that stand between my faith vs mormons. No matter how unholy the verse sounds to their teaching of marriage in heaven, as you can bind whatever and as many as you want for heaven, and you can divorce and bind another and divorce and bind another....like a filthy teaching. BUT it is a strong verse to their teaching. I have sought long and hard for wisdom on this unto the heavenly father, but to no availability(yet), other then he shows me they just go their own way in marriage and only his ways live forever...it still is a strong verse. But maybe the spirit of God will show me wisdom with whatever you find, or understand it to be. Please do your best to not use other scriptures and hid this under the carpet kind of thing unless those scriptures can be used in Reference of this one. May the Lord show me wisdom.

thanks in Advance.
Eight answers:
2011-07-19 09:28:30 UTC
Not out of context like that.



Sounds as if you are talking about the Office of the Keys and Jesus conferring (upon the apostles) the ability to forgive sins of penitent sinners (absolution) and retain the sins of impenitent sinners.



The Office of the Keys (ability to lock the entryway into heaven) is passed on by apostolic succession. This has been done since the days of the apostles by the laying on of hands (thus "passing on the office") when one is ordained.
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2011-07-19 09:37:39 UTC
For Fireball, here is one verse:

Matt 16:19

And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.



and here is another:

Matt 18:18

18Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.



They are talking about the "keys of the kingdom of heaven" or the keys of the priesthood. Those with the priesthood authority can perform ordinances that will also have affect in the after-life, such as baptism.



In the LDS church, we do not marry, divorce, marry, divorce etc... If someone wants to absolve their eternal marriage, it takes a lot of work and very good reasons to allow it. These things would be very serious sins, such as abuse or adultery, things a person would possibly get excommunicated for.

We take marriage covenants very seriously.
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2011-07-19 09:42:17 UTC
The two verses are joined together and cannot be interpreted without the other. We must remember that this is still part of the Old Testament and the mystery of the Body of Christ is not yet revealed. Peter is petros, in Greek, a fine grain of sand. The rock is petra, a solid wall of rock in which Jesus is referring to his church. Jesus was still referring to this church as coming from within the nation of Israel only, since the Gentiles were excluded from Old Testament promise. The kingdom of heaven is the rulership of the presence of the king, Christ Jesus. So this kingdom is still on hold and will wait until the start of the 1000 years rule of Christ Jesus. And this is the glory of Christ Jesus, to rule Israel, the remnants of it after the War of Armageddon together with his Body, the raptured Christians working with him. These verses has nothing to do with marriage of this present age as it will fall under wrong interpretation of the scripture. The call to Peter was Christ Jesus rulership in the 1000 year period after the day of Tribulation and after the end of anti-Christ and start of Lucifer's prison sentence.
2011-07-22 07:23:18 UTC
Matt 16:19 talks about opening the door to salvation for the jews and adventually the gentiles, after Peter got his dream.
gismoII
2011-07-19 09:27:14 UTC
The Catholic Church uses it to formulate infallible doctrines/dogmas and other infallible pronouncements. This also means they can never be changed. (Matthew 16:19 & Matthew 18:18). And the Catholic Church uses Matthew 16:18 to prove that Jesus instituted the Catholic Church.
phrog
2011-07-19 10:00:19 UTC
these verses talk of the power and authority of the priesthood - as just ducky mentions...which power and authority has only one source - God.



these keys are also referenced in isa. 22:22 (key of the house of David) and rev. 3:7–12 (he shall shut, and none shall open).



your perceptions of the LDS are incorrect.



edit: sorry dude, but you are assuming that God is bound by the same earthly/physical mentality you are using.....He is not. and you are assuming that He does not understand the intents of our hearts....He does.
2011-07-19 09:28:14 UTC
what about : That has bounded you to this world is decided in the heavens, what you let go in this world release some of the boundage in heaven, then further along that line, when all is let go off then all is lift off in the heavens, that's about when the path to His kingdom will show itself to you !



Shalom alechem, be at peace and be well,
2017-03-01 16:18:29 UTC
easily as quickly as we are chrism interior the process the Sacraments we get carry of the seal of the Holy Spirit wherein we strengthen into saints right here on the earth. The present of eternal life (His Grace) is interior of each and every Christian as reported interior of Scripture, yet this present of eternal life (His Grace) may be lost by using fact of mortal sin. Christians believe that Jesus saves human beings we do no longer believe that He condemns human beings by using fact without Him no person might desire to pass into Heaven. Now it is genuine that basically some particularly righteous human beings enter Heaven right this moment after their physique dies right here on the earth, yet there are a number of frequent those which will enter Heaven even although they decide for purification in the previous they might enter Heaven. And there are a number of which will in no way see Heaven by using undeniable fact that they had chosen to stay depraved lives and felt no be apologetic approximately for what that they had performed. human beings as imperfect as they're attempt for Heaven even although many wont be right this moment entering into Heaven after loss of life, yet they're going to ultimately get there in the previous the final Judgment. there is basically one Shepherd and one flock no longer 2 flocks, you the two die in friendship with God or you do no longer, you're the two one in each and every of His sheep or you're a goat. Scripture would not get any easier than that.


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