How to win this religion argument!?

Question

So im in a class of very strong god believers one of them asks me if I belive in god and I say no I believe in science; I need proof and he says (long story short) you believe in gravity right?? And I say of course and he says well if gravity is real but not tangible then what's there to say there's no god. And I just couldn't think of an argument back. Please help!!And I don't want you preaching to me about why gods real I just need to know what to say back.

Answer 1

Gravity's commandment: Fall!

No one on earth, or in any gravity field can go against this commandment without consuming large amounts of energy.



Bible god's commandments: (choose any of 10, or so)

Anyone on earth can go against any of these commandments without exerting any more energy than if they had obeyed.

Answer 2

I don't know at which level the participants of your discussion are; but here is a go at clarifying.



Gravity has been accepted through empirical science (results and assumptions based upon evidence). It is an accepted method in the science world that if a test has had the same result for about a couple of thousand times, the result can be considered as "conditionally true".



This means gravity after all this time hasn't been *disproven*.



Now regarding God, there is no SCIENTIFIC evidence that he is real in any kind. More so, stastically speaking his existence is more unlikely than evolution as human kind perceives it to be at the moment.





The fundamental problem here is that your classmate holds different grounds as to what he accepts as "truth". You expect scientific truth before you believe something, he only needs his faith. Therefore anything you say to him, he will disregard and anything he says to you, you will disregard.



It is a paradoxically never-ending discussion that will not be resolved because the counter evidence to something that doesn't exist(God) can not be given as long as believers can not be convinced even with undeniable evidence because reason and logic is still not as important as blind faith.



Sad but true.

Answer 3

Justifying religious beliefs and a faith in god, by comparing it to misunderstanding of scientific principle is just wrong.

Matter of fact is we do know now gravity works. Gravity, is a natural phenomenon by which physical bodies attract with a force proportional to their mass.

Gravity is a natural law. Natural laws are the rules that govern the structure and behavior of the natural universe, that the universe is a product of these laws and that the goal of science is to discover and publish them systematically.

God is supernatural, which means beyond the understanding of laws of nature.

There is no invisible wizard that controls the universe, period.

Answer 4

Ask him if god implies greater than all other things. Then ask him if god made everything. Then ask him "what was god god to before god made anything"? Oh, I see he is the god of nothing. Gravity can be proven that it exist. God is a belief not proof of anything.

Answer 5

Tell him that seeing something isn't the only way to know it exists. There is actually evidence of gravity, but there's still no evidence of any gods.

Answer 6

i like those styles of arguments, i think of in case you positioned it to a conflict type it works splendidly. God supplies all the weapons for each man or woman who needs to combat for faith, and technology supplies all the weapons for each man or woman who needs to combat for technology. so as remarkably stark as that contest could be have been it a actual conflict, it is likewise that way from a debate attitude. theory won't be subject to an identical regulations as information or actuality, that's to declare, that theory is what you have once you do not have information. So there is not any proving God anymore than there is proving that somebody loves or hates a man or woman X share , how precisely does one degree the unmeasurable. Einstein had some superb recommendations in this concept, "faith without technology is blind, technology without faith is lame".

Answer 7

Drop a brick on his thick noggin. That aught to convince him that gravity is provable and OBVIOUS. 2 things his imaginary friend isn't.



Edit: You don't need to "see" something to know it exists. You need to be able to measure it. All Gods can't be measured or sensed in anyway whatsoever. That's because they are blatant fairy tales.

Answer 8

You can see gravity working through demonstrations.

Answer 9

Gravity has demonstrable effects. No such luck with any supposed deity.

Answer 10

Gravity can be demonstrated very easily, what evidence is there of god?

Answer 11

I am a Christian, but your response should be gravity is observable.

Answer 12

couldn't you just drop something on the ground and say "ok, there's gravity. now...where's god?"

Answer 13

Read http://livingthebestinyou.blogspot.com Fascinating religious stuff!

Answer 14

Give in to him & give in to God, he is real, fool !

You cant say anything, give up !

Answer 15

Tell him theres a thousand and one things you can't see but exist.



Its called physics.

Answer 16

God created a set number of angels 30 billion?; 1/3 of all angels rebelled 10 billion?God turned the rebels into spiritual darkness (demons) and expelled them from heaven. there was a void in heaven of 10 billion open seats.God decided to create humans to replace the demons. God said that He will let demons trick people into following them, but when 10 billion seats in heaven are filled, God will send demons and those who follow demons to hell. demons dress in fake human skin and fly in ufo ships;pretend to be angels of light, ghosts, pagan gods, greys, ouija board movers.jigsaw from saw movie is not only gay but he's antichrist. when people will look at jigsaw, they will see many angels surrounding jigsaw, but in reality those are demons. the main demon is black with red eyes. antichrist is white with red eyes. if anyone worships jigsaw, they'll go to hell 100%. also, soon the world government will be giving mandatory small grey world passport. when people stretch their hands to receive the small grey world passport, a small green electronic tattoo with sixes will be given by lasers. if anyone receives this tattoo, they'll go to hell 100%. people who kill themselves wind up in hell 100%. also, people who blaspheme the Holy Spirit, go to hell as well. God is one but decides to reveal Himself to the world in three distinct persons: as God the Father, as God the Son (Jesus Christ), and as God the Holy Spirit. now, let's switch to the ufo bases that the demons built. they are located on the moon, in lake baikal, underneath mariana trench (atlantis is here), and inside a fake mountain in tibet (buddhists consider this mountain holy, but as was mentioned, pagan gods are demons). there was also a time when 200 angels told God that they would fare better than humans if they had human bodies (angels and demons don't have bodies - they're just spirits). God told them that He could give them human bodies but if they mess up, He'll punish them severely. these 200 spirits agreed to take this deal. what happened was that when these 200 angels (aka anunaki in pagan beliefs) descended on a mountain in middle east, they saw beautiful female descendents of cain, and took them wives for themselves. these 200 anunaki had giants as kids. giants built the pyramids and other colossal monuments around the world. anunaki taught witchcraft, astrology, blood drinking, human sacrifice, abortion, art of war, etc. God became angry and punished the world for following anunaki. anunaki were imprisoned underneath a desert in middle east. 300 thousand giants and 700 thousand people who followed anunaki and other demons were drowned in world flood. only 8 people were saved in the flood. me and u are descendents of these 8 (noah with his wife, and their three sons with three daughters-in-law) who survived in an ark-ship. animals that knelt before noah went into the ark with noah. animals that didn't kneel were drowned. a bit later, nimrod (world leader) and his wife semiramis (she was in charge of a brothel) created a one state pagan religion (sun-moon-bull-sex worship). nimrod was also in charge of building the tower of babel. this tower was built by masons who wanted to reach heaven and fight God and establish pagan religion in heaven. this was silly, to say the least. God burned the top third of this tower, sank the bottom third inside the earth, and changed the original language into 70 different languages. so, one third of builders killed each other because of misunderstanding, one third ran away, and one third were cursed to become apemen and elephantmen. silly atheists claim that we come from apes when in reality apemen were cursed masons. hindu religion has an elephantman deity. this is absurd. let's get to something even weirder. 80 foot dinosaurs live beneath the earth. they will soon come out through lakes and sinkholes. this is a punishment for spreading ideas of evolution. major climate change will follow. there won't be any clean water left. world government will hide food on purpose too. stores with food will be set up to laser people with the above-mentioned evil tattoo. it's better to die from hunger than receive this tattoo. now, let's go to the main message of christianity. God incarnated (took on human body) to die for our sins so that we can go to heaven. now why was this necessary? well, remember the 10 billion seats from before? yep, they're all empty because everyone went to hell. there were only 2 people that went to heaven (enoch and elijah). so, God didn't want all people to burn in hell, so He provided a cure for this - He died on the cross for our sins and went to hell to pick "believers in Him during their lives on earth" to take them to heaven. now most people go to hell too, but christians don't. why? because God said that if you believe in what He did for you on the cross, and feel sorry for your sins, and stop sinning, you'll go to heaven.