Question:
God's chosen people could of been someone else -not the Jews?
Tmgpo
2011-10-14 11:43:32 UTC
You may pray to God through Jesus to confirm this.
When God(Yaweh) made His covenant with the Jews of Israel He already tried to make covenants with other peoples in history.For example ,God through Jesus has told me that He tried to make covenants with the Zororastrians of Ancient Persia(Modern day Iran) and also the Slavic peoples, based around Ukraine(a branch of the Indo-European peoples ,when they had some sought of Pan-Indo-European culture based on common language long ago in B.C.) The covenants with the Zororastrians failed because the prophet Zoroaster did not obey God,(like Sister Lucia of Our Lady of Fatima), and there were other reasons exclusive to that.With the Slavic peoples it was the same too.So later on in history ,God's covenants and revelations of Himself were given to the Jews. The Jews of Israel broke that covenant so God gave it to the Gentiles. St Paul speaks of this in the bible :Romans 9.24-25:"For the people he called, not only from among the Jews but also from among the Gentiles. This is what he says in the book of Hosea:The people who were not mine
I will call My People. The nation that I did not love I will call My Beloved.
And in the very place where they were told, you are not my people,
there they will be called the children of the living God.
And also on what Jesus said in the Gospels(Matthew Chapter 26,vs 26 -29 with other parralel passages ) : While they were eating, Jesus took a piece of bread, gave a prayer of thanks, broke it, and gave it to his disciples.
Take and eat it, he said; this is my body. Then he took a cup, gave thanks to God, and gave it to them. Drink it, all of you, he said;
this is my blood, which seals God's covenant, my blood poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. I tell you, I will never again drink this wine until the day I drink the new wine with you in my Father's Kingdom."
There is a often quoted passage from Hebrews that says "the blood of the everlasting covenant" I do state here that it was NOT really everlasting as such.Jesus Christ as God ,has shown new revelations through history,and made new covenants through the Virgin Mary.What may be called "Virgin Mary covenants" .Jesus has made many of these Virgin Mary covenants to various peoples. One was to the English people as "Our Lady of Walsingham: ,the English hirearchy broke this covenant like the Jews,and so God made new ones with other peoples.
On the issue of Divine revelation from the monotheistic Creator of all things God almighty, He has revealed a portion of these revelations through the Jews of Israel. Jesus has told me that many of the prophets,including Isaiah seemed to have lied half the time,wrote half truths and left out very important Divine revelations that affected the whole of humanity like"Our Lady of Fatima" .Jesus Christ didn't just come to condemn the "yeast of the Pharisess" and the "teachers of the Law" but also the Prophets of the Old testament, the High Priests of the Jerusalem Temple(who were prophets at times) and the Torah (book of Moses. Pentateuch itself ) On the issue of the Old testament ,Jesus has told me that it was outdated by the time He arrived on the planet earth 2000 years ago.It should of been updated like an encyclopaedia, and revised and edited in accordance with God's new revelations, with each coming century.If this had been done,the there would have been no need for Jesus Christ to come at all.What we read of the Old testament today in the Bible today should not exist.Much of it is the product of Satan and demons.Though some of it is from God.
On the issues of the Jews of Europe.Many of the Jews that existed in Medieval Europe were Devil and pagan worshippers .(I am not racist towards them, and have much good will towards them.Jesus has commanded me to write on the Jews of Europe).This is not true of all of them,but most of them.
24 answers:
✡ Danit ✡
2011-10-15 20:34:26 UTC
You kind of lost me after this part:

"For example ,God through Jesus has told me that He tried to make covenants with the Zororastrians of Ancient Persia(Modern day Iran) and also the Slavic peoples, based around Ukraine(a branch of the Indo-European peoples ,when they had some sought of Pan-Indo-European culture based on common language long ago in B.C.)"



You claim to be in direct contact (with detailed information) to Jesus??
antonius
2011-10-14 12:10:37 UTC
When I read "For example ,God through Jesus has told me that He tried to make covenants with, etc, etc ", that was enough to understand that you are delusional. The first thing that you need to do is to

prove that Jesus was a real person. The you can not do because if that could be done the leaders of

christianity would have done that hundreds of years ago. You know nothing about the OT, nor the NT

and nothing about the people mentioned in the NT. Just to get you started on what you need to learn;

Jesus was a composite character invented by Royal Romans for ulterior motives, all the characters

in the tale are fictional including all the Marys, John the Baptist, Paul and all of the so-called disciples,

all of the Josephus. It is a totally fictional story.
{Reformed Theology}
2011-10-14 11:53:54 UTC
That is total Heresy. God/YHWH doesn't TRY, He DOES what He sets out to do. And your god can't keep his word either?



What a weak god you worship, who can be defeated so easily.



You certainly don't worship or know the God of Abraham, Issac, Jacob, and the Prophets.



And for Gods sake, please don't try to start some cult or claim that your some sort of New Age Prophet that is bringing a new revelation :P



Sincerely.



@Amir- Deuteronomy 7 says God chose Israel- Although, I could agree that it wouldn't make anyone with Hebrew descent, or who follow Judaism, above others, or viewed better in Gods sight. Especially being that the Israelites in the Bible angered God- A LOT.
2011-10-14 11:50:27 UTC
The Jews were God's Chosen and still are but ever since the gospel was extended to the Gentiles in Acts, those who received Christ into their hearts are now God's chosen people. The Jews (whether born again or not) still have a special place with God, and there are prophecies about them overcoming. They will not worship the beast during the tribulation and God will transport them to Petra, a fortress in Trans-Jordan.
skepsis
2011-10-14 12:08:16 UTC
Okay, all of that stuff about Slavs and Zoroastrians is completely made up, and 95% of your scripture quotes are from the CHRISTIAN scriptures, which are a very biased source. And your quote from Hosea (2:25) is taken out of context. The other verses describe Israel's unfaithfulness and God's stripping of special status from Israel through the Babylonian Exile. The verse describes God's re-adoption of his former people after the period of purification. "Not-my-people" is a nickname for humiliated Israel. Read in context, no other meaning is possible.



The rest of your "revelation" is just more antisemitic tripe.



Oh, one more thing. It's "could HAVE been", not "could of been". Your ignorance is revealing itself.
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2014-09-23 06:31:03 UTC
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2011-10-14 11:46:09 UTC
I didn't read this, because I don't have time.

But Israel was God's brain child. It's not like He chose Israel. He made Israel. He found some good men and through them established Israel through their ancestors. He made a nation to establish His glory among the nations. That's in the Bible. He renamed Jacob Israel. If you don't believe me then you haven't read the Old Testament.
?
2011-10-14 12:52:46 UTC
Scripture is clear in relating that the living God's chosen people are His people 'Israel'.



He wanted them to be His light for all the other people on earth to follow in order to find Him.



But, because God's people Israel chose to follow the world's gods and its wicked worship system He allowed His only begotten Son to be ransomed for 'all' who choose to accept His sacrifice, repent of his sins and most importantly to "obey" His Father.



He has never told anyone to pray to His Son's mother nor has He ever told anyone that she is anything more than what He deemed her to be - this unfortunately is the same type of worship system that God the Almighty has condemned.



It is not just the Jews that were, as you say; "Devil and pagan worshipers" the Roman church is the one who brought her paganism into the Church guided by the Apostles of the Lord and it is her that still teaches paganism to this day to those who blindly follow her lead.



The Scriptures also teach through Timothy; "But the Spirit says expressly that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons, through the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, branded in their own conscience as with a hot iron; forbidding marriage and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth" (1 Timothy 4: 2-3).



The Lord Yeshua says; "These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far away. Their worship is a farce, for they replace God's commands with their own man-made teachings" (Mark 7:7).

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This is what many of the world's religions do, including the Roman church and all other churches that claim to follow the Lord Yeshua but use paganism to worship Him.



But, we should also take a look at the Apostle Paul when he speaks on the Anti-Messiah/Christs that are here in the world, this is also a group to look out for in these end days:



"Little children, these are the end times, and as you heard that the Anti-messiah is coming, even now many anti-messiahs have arisen. By this we know that it is the end times" (1 John 2:18 HNV).



"And every spirit who doesn't confess that Yeshua the Messiah has come in the flesh is not of God, and this is the spirit of the anti-messiah, of whom you have heard that it comes. Now it is in the world already" (1 John 4:3 HNV).



"For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who don't confess that Yeshua the Messiah came in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the Anti-messiah" (2 John 1:7 HNV).



We know that there are many of the world religions that do not confess that the Lord Yeshua is the Son of the Most High God, two that come to mind are; Buddhist and Muslims.



Sorry, I do not believe that your information has come from the living God because there is paganism attached to what you say. And if He did give this information to you, it is only so someone can bring glory back to Him in showing the truth through His Holy Word.



Be Blessed:-D
janhoi
2011-10-14 11:47:48 UTC
"Many of the jews where devil and pagan worshippers", not sure about that. As to gods chosen people could have been someone else, obviously. God just chose the jews to be used as an example to the world.......
?
2011-10-14 11:59:18 UTC
The Jews were chosen as a medium through which to bless the whole world but they are not specially chosen as Spiritual people.
2011-10-14 11:49:32 UTC
The prophet Hosea foretold that God, in rejecting the nation of natural Israel in favor of this spiritual nation, which includes Gentiles, would say “to those not my people: ‘You are my people.’” (Ho 2:23; Ro 9:22-25) In due time the Kingdom of God was taken away from the nation of natural Jews and given to a spiritual nation bringing forth Kingdom fruitage. (Mt 21:43) To be sure, natural Jews were included in spiritual Israel. The apostles and others who received holy spirit at Pentecost in 33 C.E. (about 120), those added on that day (about 3,000), and those that later increased the number to about 5,000 were all Jews and proselytes. (Ac 1:13-15; 2:41; 4:4) But even at that, they were, as Isaiah described them, “a mere remnant” saved out of that cast-off nation.—Isa 10:21, 22; Ro 9:27.

Other scriptures elaborate on this matter. With the breaking off of some “natural branches” of the figurative olive tree, there was a grafting in of “wild” non-Israelite ones, so that there was no racial or class distinction among those that “are really Abraham’s seed, heirs with reference to a promise.” (Ro 11:17-24; Ga 3:28, 29) “Not all who spring from Israel are really ‘Israel.’” “For he is not a Jew who is one on the outside, nor is circumcision that which is on the outside upon the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit.” (Ro 9:6; 2:28, 29) Natural Israel failed to produce the required number, so God “turned his attention to the nations to take out of them a people for his name” (Ac 15:14), concerning whom it was said, “You were once not a people, but are now God’s people.” (1Pe 2:10) The apostle Peter quoted what had been said to natural Israel and applied it to this spiritual Israel of God, saying it is in reality “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession.”—Ex 19:5, 6; 1Pe 2:9.

The 12 tribes mentioned in Revelation chapter 7 must refer to this spiritual Israel for several valid reasons. The listing does not match that of natural Israel at Numbers chapter 1. Also Jerusalem’s temple and priesthood and all the tribal records of natural Israel were permanently destroyed, lost forever, long before John had his vision in 96 C.E. But more important, John received his vision upon a background of the aforementioned developments from and after Pentecost 33 C.E. In the light of such events, John’s vision of those standing on the heavenly Mount Zion with the Lamb (whom natural Israel had rejected) revealed the number of this spiritual Israel of God to be 144,000 “bought from among mankind.”—Re 7:4; 14:1, 4.
Hashem
2011-10-14 11:50:17 UTC
God created all people and put them on trial in this world,he loves all of them,he provides equally to those who believe in him and to those who dont believe in him.He will reward and punish all of us and then he will choose those for paradise who believed in him and had the best conduct and the most good deeds and these are the chosen people.
Turn it up! Bring the Derp!!!
2011-10-14 11:51:27 UTC
Actually, the whole thing is a control story to keep the weak-minded in line with the authorities.





Keep twisting the myths around until you think you've found something original and WHAMMO!! You've got a revelation!!!



Start your own cult, er, denomination!! You'll get tax-exempt status!!
Tatanka
2011-10-14 11:49:22 UTC
Us Jews are his chosen people, I believe that because that is what he told us, but that does not mean I see us a better than anyone else.



I just commented without reading due to TLDR
Matthew
2011-10-14 11:47:03 UTC
They used to be the Jews (Matthew 21:43). But now its the Christians, they are spiritual Israel.
2011-10-14 14:07:11 UTC
the only spacial people among jews are ashkenazim of khazar turks, also definitely persians are not spacial in any thing!
2011-10-14 11:49:13 UTC
ARE you really expecting us to read that Great-Chinese wall of text and then give you an answer?
2011-10-14 11:46:19 UTC
Surely you don't expect us to read all that do you? You are deceived. God chose the Jews period.
John 3:16
2011-10-14 11:50:51 UTC
Yes, Christians are God's spirit chosen people.
2011-10-14 11:47:42 UTC
Yeah and he could have made elephants fly, but He didn't



(thank goodness)
studytrue islam
2011-10-14 11:53:53 UTC
Jews learned "Kabbala" The most dangerous magic from Satans, and the Two Angels which were sent down by God in order to test people with their faith.



Those two angels used to teach people magic, and they won't teach them before saying "we are just a TEST for your belief, if you learn magic from us, then there won't be any share for you on the day of Judgement, and you will be held accountable for this".



Jews learned this and came back from "Babilon"..



Magic is nothing but help from Satans. (Jinns)



More About the Jinn



Hadith - Sahih Bukhari 4:533, Narrated Jabi bin 'Abdullah May Allah be pleased with him



The Prophet May Allah's peace and blessings be on him said, "Cover your utensils and tie your water skins, and close your doors and keep your children close to you at night, as the Jinns spread out at such time and snatch things away. When you go to bed, put out your lights, for the mischief-doer (i.e. the rat) may drag away the wick of the candle and burn the dwellers of the house." Ata said, "The devils." (instead of the Jinns).



Hadith - Sunan of Abu Dawood, Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri

Muhammad ibn AbuYahya said that his father told that he and his companion went to AbuSa'id al-Khudri to pay a sick visit to him. He said: Then we came out from him and met a companion of ours who wanted to go to him. We went ahead and sat in the mosque. He then came back and told us that he heard AbuSa'id al-Khudri say: The Apostle of Allah May Allah's peace and blessings be on him said: Some snakes are jinn; so when anyone sees one of them in his house, he should give it a warning three times. If it return (after that), he should kill it, for it is a devil.



Hadith - Al-Muwatta 54.33

...The snake stirred on the end of the spear and the youth fell dead. No one knew which of them died first, the snake or the youth. That was mentioned to the Messenger of Allah May Allah's peace and blessings be on him said, "There are jinn in Madina who have become muslim. When you see one of them, call out to it for three days. If it appears after that, then kill it, for it is a shaytan." "'



Hadith - Muwatta, 49.21

...Shaytan does not open a locked door or untie a tied knot, or uncover a vessel.



Hadith - Tirmidhi #350

Allah's Messenger May Allah's peace and blessings be on him said: Don't cleanse yourself with dung or with bones for that is the food of your brothers from amongst the Jinn. [Transmitted by Tirmidhi, Nasa'i with this exception that he did not make mention of: The Food of your brothers from amongst the jinn.]



The Noble Qur'an - Ar-Rahmaan 55:56

Wherein both will be those (maidens) restraining their glances upon their husbands, whom no man or jinn yatmithhunna (has opened their hymens with sexual intercourse) before them.



Hadith - Abu Dawood 1046, Narrated Ali ibn Abu Talib



Ali said on the pulpit in the mosque of Kufah: When Friday comes, the devils go to the markets with their flags, and involve people in their needs and prevent them from the Friday prayer. ...
?
2011-10-14 11:46:36 UTC
Can you summarise.
2011-10-14 11:45:27 UTC
There is no such thing as a "chosen people."

God's religion is for all of mankind, not a select few.
Michael K
2011-10-14 11:45:38 UTC
tl;dr


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