Question:
How did god make the sun on the fourth day if you need the sun to have a day like what?
xxbestlordxagxxcodxx
2016-09-30 04:30:27 UTC
How did god make the sun on the fourth day if you need the sun to have a day like what?
Nineteen answers:
Jim V
2016-09-30 06:16:38 UTC
If you read Genesis 1 a bit closer we see that the sun is NOT created on the fourth day.

Especially in Hebrew.



Explanation? Sure.

vs 14 & 15

14 Then God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the

heavens to separate the day from the night,

and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years;

15 and let them be for lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth”;

and it was so.



There is no creation (bara) or making (asa) of the sun and moon here.

And the process is completed. (and it was so).



"Let there be" is a verb that shows process or progression. The sun and moon became /visible/ on the surface of the earth through the thinning of the cloud layer. Remember that the POV shifted to the surface back in verse 2.



Verses 16 & 17 are past tense statements of why the sun and moon were created and their purposes.



BTW, a 'day' can literally be a period of time.



The sun and moon were created "In the beginning", which covers about 9 billion years.
?
2016-09-30 04:45:09 UTC
first of all bible is corrupted and it is unscientific





- Bible says in Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses No. 3 and 5,…‘Light was created on the first day.’ Genesis, Ch., 1 Verses, 14 to 19… ‘The cause of light - stars and the sun, etc. was created on the fourth day’. How can the cause of light be created on the 4th day - later than the light which came into existence on the first day? - It is unscientific.



Point No.3 - Further, the, Bible says Genesis, Ch. 1, Verses 9 to 13… ‘Earth was created on the 3rd day. How can you have a night and day without the earth ? The day depends upon the rotation of the Earth Without the earth created, how can you have a night and day?



Point No..4 - Genesis, Ch. No. 1 Verses 9 to 13 says… ‘Earth was created on the third day.’ Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses 14 to 19 says…‘The Sun and the Moon were created on the fourth day.’ Today science tells us… ‘Earth is part of the parent body… the sun.’ It cannot come into existence before the sun – It is unscientific.
Gman
2016-09-30 04:48:49 UTC
First of all, the creative days were not 24 hour days but were like in "Noah's day" we know Noah didn't live for one day but hundreds of years. So each creative day must mean longer periods time. The sun and all other planets in our solar system were most likely created all at the same time. What happened on the forth creative day is that God arranged everything so that the earth would be exposed to the sun light, the source of light.
2016-09-30 06:34:29 UTC
The Bible language didn't say sun and Moon!





Never did never will ! It says god created the great luminary one to master the light one to master the dark,,!





But poor translates have ruined that chapters meaning! And that meaning is crystal clear..





Until day 4 there was no Lucifer and no Lilith!





The scriptures all ways read and God did this or that! The 5 day belonged to those great masters of early creation.



For in #6 god changes his Grammer let us create!!!!



Very crystal clear god created Jesus Lucifer and Lilith day 4 and let them have some time at creation.





This is the old legends and if you don't ruin the Bible's language by substituting sun and Moon on the 4 day you understand that Lucifer and Jesus was in charge of positive knowledge the light and Lilith in charge of the dark.





Lucifer be came Satan when he desired for himself both Jesus and Lilith's position!





And the Bible personified this with the tree of good and evil.
Lighting the Way to Reality
2016-09-30 08:14:11 UTC
When you ask How did god make the sun on the fourth day if you need the sun to have a day like what, all the Bible believers will do is to come up with a bunch of nonsense in their trying to make sense of it.



The Bible itself is quite clear on the matter if you understand that it was written by people who did not know anything about the cosmos that we know actually exists, and their interpretation of what they saw is consistently what is shown in the biblical account of creation.



First, in contradiction to what some responders said that the Hebrew word for "day" in the Bible can mean an indeterminate length of time, that is overridden by the CONTEXT in which the word occurs. The days in Genesis chapter one DO have a specific context, since each "day" in that chapter is delineated by the term "the evening and the morning."



A 24-hour day in Hebrew connotation begins at the arrival of evening darkness and the period of daylight following the dark of night until the beginning of the next evening darkness.



That makes it clear that the days of creation were normal 24-hour days, and not "allegorically" longer. Any attempt to make them longer has no basis in the Bible and is an attempt to make the Bible conform to modern knowledge.



Now, let's take a look at why the writers of the Bible believed light was created before the sun.



The ancient Hebrews did not consider the light of the daytime sky to be caused by the sun. After all, the sky gets light before the sun appears in the morning and stays light for a while after the sun sets. They, of course, did not know about the atmospheric refraction of the light from the sun when it is just below the horizon, so it would have natural for them to think that the light of the daytime sky is separate from the sun's light.



That observation would have resulted in their conclusion about the order of creation events. Since, just before the appearance of the sun at dawn, the sky becomes light, and then the sun appears. To the scientifically naive, this would mean that the light of the sky was created first and then the sun.



In other words, they considered that there were two separate sources of light. During the first three days, the light of the daytime sky was the only source of light, and then after the sun was created on the fourth day, it was an additional source of light.



The light of day (meaning that of the daytime sky) HAD to have been considered separate from the light of the sun since the sun was not created until the fourth day.



That understanding is supported by Eccl: 12:2,



"before the sun and the light and the moon and the stars are darkened and the clouds return after the rain,"



The Hebrew word for light there is 'owr, which is the same word used in Genesis for light. So that passage is indicating that there are two sources of light during the day: the sun and the light of the daytime sky. If the ancient Hebrews thought the light of the daytime sky was caused by the sun, they would not have needed to add that light to the passage, for the darkening of the sun would also cause the darkening of the light of the sky.



Ps 74:16 also indicates the same thing:



"The day is thine, the night also is thine: thou hast prepared the light and the sun."



Meaning he prepared the light of the daytime sky and the sun. There the Hebrew word for light is ma'owr, which is a variation of 'owr.



All of which goes to show that the Bible is based on ancient Hebrew ignorance, myth, and superstition, and is not worthy of being believed in as a supernatural revelation.



That is also confirmed with my more detailed look at the biblical cosmos in my answer to this question.



https://answersrip.com/question/index?qid=20160126064750AAyTwxr
Annsan_In_Him
2016-09-30 07:32:17 UTC
Light had to be created first (as stated it was, on the first day, in Genesis chapter 1) and this accords perfectly with the Big Bang theory. Professor Brian Cox's documentary "Wonders of the Universe", screened on BBC2 on Sunday 27th March 2011 was all about light for the final episode. The Professor said at the start, "Light breathed life into us." Then he went on to show how our universe is a symphony of light and what we can deduce from calculations based on the speed of light, and the colours of light.



He explained that tiny ripples in the Cosmic Microwave Background (that fills the universe) "originated in the first billionth of a second after the Big Bang, making some bits denser than others. As they expanded, they seeded the first stars. Denser regions became denser, forming the first structures that grew so massive they collapsed on themselves. The explosions formed stars and darkness was banished. Planets fell into orbits around the stars. And all because of these tiny density fluctuations when the universe was smaller than a grain of sand."

"Nine billion years later in the Orion spur, a star was born that we call the Sun. So light had to be created first, before our Sun could be born."



Have you got that last sentence stated by the Professor? Light had to be created first, before our Sun could be born. That's exactly what Genesis shows. Genesis does NOT say the Sun was not in existence before day four. It talks about the Sun and the moon appearing in a way that would distinguish day from night, and give rise to the seasons as we know them. This speaks of the Earth's axis and speed of rotation. By 'day four', the combination was such as to give a recognizable Earth day. Prior to that, the speed of the Earth's daily cycle had taken billions of years to be slowed from five hours a day (by gravitational braking) to its present one, which continues to slow. The 'days' of creation could not be 24-hour Earth days, certainly not prior to 'day four' at the least! When those 'days' are taken to be unspecified aeons, then it all begins to make sense.



The point is that the term 'day' is used in different ways in Genesis and although most of the time it refers to an Earth day, with hours of darkness and hours of light, only half the planet is in any one state of darkness or light at any given time. The phrase, "Then there was evening, and there was morning" to mark the end of a creation period cannot mean a 24 hour Earth day because half the planet would be at a different stage; there is a constant flow, not a cut-off point. That is why all six days of creation are called "in the day that the Lord God created the earth and the heavens" (Gen 2:4 KJV). That is why Adam was warned that "in the day" he ate the forbidden fruit he would surely die, yet he didn't die till aged 930 years!



Not a contradiction - just evidence of the word 'day' having different meanings.
?
2016-09-30 04:36:08 UTC
He doesn't need the sun



Revelation 21:23

city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp.
JORGE N
2016-09-30 04:52:38 UTC
If we knew how He did it we wouldn't be trying to figure it out for so many years. In fact, most all of our science has been to figure out that very problem. All we get is deeper into something that goes on forever. And with that, ideas of how it got done. Still not really too close to any kind of an answer as to whether God exists or doesn't, we sludge forward hoping to evolve into the knowledge someday.
?
2016-09-30 05:04:04 UTC
You don't need the sun to have a "day", but only to have "daytime". A "day" is one rotation of the earth; 24 hours. If the sun all of a sudden quit glowing, we would still have 365 days in a year, although we would have to look at other things like stars to tell when one rotation had occurred.
Turmoyl
2016-09-30 11:17:13 UTC
Genesis 1:3 says that God made day and night on the first day:

God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good. Then He separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day” and the darkness “night.”



And evening passed and morning came, marking the first day.
?
2016-09-30 07:40:54 UTC
not true! the light of God pre exists the Sun, and it is written that there is a light from God that doesnt need the Sun.
?
2016-09-30 07:51:19 UTC
The sun was already made, the atmosphere was clarified so that the sun became visible enabling time to be measured by humankind when they were created later.
?
2016-09-30 04:35:56 UTC
First of all light was present, it says so. But why would God need light for a day. Even with light He doesn't need light Himself. This seems a stupid objection for many reasons.
Gregory
2016-09-30 05:31:07 UTC
you don't need the sun to have a day
2016-09-30 04:33:04 UTC
One rotation on earth's axis is a day.
2016-09-30 04:52:31 UTC
It's just one of many flaws of an ancient fairy tale.
the internet
2016-09-30 04:34:58 UTC
You point out one hole, the rest of the story is not better.
?
2016-09-30 04:56:26 UTC
badly constructed myths
Cool Dude
2016-09-30 04:36:34 UTC
Complete and coherent sentence please.


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