I believe religion is wrong, but I'm starting to think there might have been a creator anyway?

Question

I had the blankest mind an hour ago when I came across a very dynamic thought: Religion from this world that tries to personify god: I think that's useless and just implies how he's a product of our own creation. BUT, After thikning over how there could be arguments for "if god created the universe, what created god" AND "if the big bang created the big bang, what created the big bang? another big bang?" I'm trying to be completely logical, so could somebody explain why the big bang was the one and only start, or possibly how it wasn't? I've not read verymuch into the physics of things...

Answer 1

Of course there is a creator... what... do you think that blackness just did a mega fart that was so huge they called it the big bang and created the universe?

Answer 2

I'd love to but there is no logical answer. What you end up finding for each scenario is an endless loop of "what created that then". Religion tends to say God is infinite which is an easy way out. Where as we have to seek a logical way out not to say theirs is not logical how do we know there is no proof for or against God. So their reason could be very well logical. Its illogical to state otherwise. But all you get is an endless chain. If you truly believe in a beginning for everything neither side has a correct "logical" story to tell.



However scientists have built the LHC to study it however this still does not answer the question. As scientists smash together particles meaning they are using mass before hand. The LHC is built to show what happened within seconds of the Big Bang not what happened before it.



I think we are going to have to accept it is something we will never know and something we can only speculate on. However that said does not mean the religious are correct. And that God is infinite God is a subject where saying he does exist is illogical and saying he doesn't is illogical.

Logic is depicted by facts God is neither a fact nor a false subject.



The religious argument is no better than ours and neither carries fact or solid understanding.

Answer 3

Religion is not completely wrong. It teaches us how to live in society, inculcates values and so on; makes us man! The creator thing is true. This perfect world, the universe cannot be a product of randomness. It was all created by God. Nobody can deny this. Though we have not seen him, there is definitely an intelligence behind all this. And God is the ultimate, there cannot be anything or anyone that created Him, otherwise how can you explain it? This is a mystery and will always be for us, fellow humans!

Answer 4

You could believe God created the Big Bang and the Apocalypse is the Big Crunch. They do not contradict each other as some people think. Also the fact that you believe religion is wrong is right. Although on forms and applications my religion is Christianity, I have a personal relationship with the Lord my Father. It isn't so much a religion as a relationship. Religion is tradition, rules, rituals. The only thing my faith is based on is that God loved me so much he sent his only Son so that I could live for eternity (John 3:16). I am covered by the grace of God and this allows me to have a personal relationship with him. I can pray whenever I want wherever I want, I don't have to cleanse myself with rituals because I am cleansed by Jesus for eternity. All religions are works based i.e faith plus works. Being a born again christian is only about faith, and through faith you will receive the holy spirit which will transform you.

Answer 5

Well so far we've gathered up the basics that energy can't be destroyed or created, only transformed. When you place that into the basic big bang theory it makes a lot of sense, energy has always been, it started to gather up and converted into mass, then that's when the big bang occurred.



Cool right? :)



Going by that a creator isn't required for the universe to begin. Obviously we aren't completely sure if this theory is correct or not but it's a pretty damn good one.

Answer 6

In all the sources that I have been consulting over the last two years, scientists have no answer for this, the only reply I have found being that it was an accident. I don't know about you, but the fact that we can plan and dream, desire and feel, and love and want and yearn and grieve and have a destiny and a planned future for ourselves don't seem to be no accident.



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Answer 7

>so could somebody explain why the big bang was the one and only start



It obviously had a cause. A very basic explanation is that virtual particles annihilating eachother in the singularity built up energy, which then forced the singularity to expand (ie, the big bang) because of the need for the matter and anti-matter to even out.



I'm not going to explain it any further because it's really complicated and you have to learn quantum field theory, quantum electro-dynamics and basic M-theory, as well as some advanced differential geometry, advanced calculus and linear algebra to even scrape the surface of understanding how the big bang happened.



Here's a couple of videos that explain the basics. They don't explain it in detail though since like I said, you have to have a really good understanding of modern physics to even scrape the surface.



This one talks about the quantum fluctuation that produced the singularity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxNbXjBbzEo



This talks about the separation of gravity and the strong force which triggered inflation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6i-qE8AigE

Answer 8

The problem is that you're trying to think this through with no evidence from the real world. Pure logic will not solve this. Science is the use of evidence to construct testable explanations and predictions of natural phenomena, as well as the knowledge generated through this process. I suggest that you study what we know through science, because you appear ignorant without this knowledge.



For thousands of years, people have said that their god was behind what they didn't understand -- life, lightning, stars, earthquakes, the origin of life, the world or the universe, etc. Positing a god to supposedly answer a question solves nothing. It just stops you from asking more questions.



It used to be that science couldn't answer the question about the origin of the Big Bang, but that didn't mean we should make up a god and say that it was the cause. Within the last few decades science has discovered some good answers.



There are many well-respected physicists, such as Stephen Hawking, Lawrence Krauss, Sean M. Carroll, Victor Stenger, Michio Kaku, Alan Guth, Alex Vilenkin, Robert A.J. Matthews, and Nobel laureate Frank Wilczek, who have created scientific models where the Big Bang and thus the entire universe could arise from nothing but a quantum vacuum fluctuation -- via natural processes.



In relativity, gravity is negative energy, and matter and photons are positive energy. Because negative and positive energy seem to be equal in absolute total value, our observable universe appears balanced to the sum of zero. Our universe could thus have come into existence without violating conservation of mass and energy — with the matter of the universe condensing out of the positive energy as the universe cooled, and gravity created from the negative energy. When energy condenses into matter, equal parts of matter and antimatter are created — which annihilate each other to form energy. However there is a slight imbalance to the process, which results in matter dominating over antimatter.



I know that this doesn't make sense in our Newtonian experience, but it does in the realm of quantum mechanics and relativity. As Nobel laureate physicist Richard Feynman wrote, "The theory of quantum electrodynamics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And it agrees fully with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as she is — absurd."



"To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains premature today."

— Isaac Asimov



"As far as I can see, such a theory [of the primeval atom] remains entirely outside any metaphysical or religious question. It leaves the materialist free to deny any transcendental Being… For the believer, it removes any attempt at familiarity with God."

— Georges Lemaître, Catholic priest who first proposed what became the Big Bang Theory



For more, watch the video at the 1st link - "A Universe From Nothing" by Lawrence Krauss.

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Answer 9

Religions are probably wrong



As to God and the big bangs it comes down to this:



Somewhere there has to be a first cause of existence. It all has to start somewhere. There has to be something with a "brute force" existence that exists in its own right with no cause.The question is do you believe



1) The laws of physics or some other superstructure are the first cause of existence, it exists because it could not, it has no cause, exists outside time, and is impersonal and unintelligent



2) God exists and created the laws of physics, he exists outside of time, exists because he could not, and is personal and intelligent



3) A combination of the two. The laws of physics are a part of God as is the universe. This is known as pantheism or panentheism. Its then up to you to decide how personal or intelligent you think this thing is

Answer 10

Nothing points to a creator that man has not made or thought up from nothing. Hence how can there be a creator that gives a **** about us? furthermore, the big bang is not fact it is theory. We are inching closer to that sort of fact. like someone said before thoughts that start from nothing are fantasy and are how religions get started.

Answer 11

The have faith in being reborn in case you're undesirable you come back lower back as a snail or slug. in case you're relatively undesirable you come back lower back as a woman. so as that they have little or no regard for women individuals in that custom. they are mistreated and used to reproduce and improve gardens. maximum ladies individuals they sense circulate lower back many extra circumstances until they attain to being a guy. Reborn until they attain a ideal state and then they are allowed to return to the dirt or in simple terms stop to exist. it somewhat is the utmost element you may wish for. The international locations that are ordinarily Buddhist are Korea, Vietnam Thailand. once you recognize that they are all Buddhist international locations and then they divided into North and south and proceeded to kill one yet another in undesirable techniques. So the governments have been given in contact and tried to stop the killings. fifty six,000 or some say 60,000 American infantrymen have been killed in Vietnam on my own, attempting to maintain the non violent Buddhists from killing one yet another. they are additionally in Thailand the place the struggling with by no potential stops. in simple terms as this technology of persons will by no potential have faith Muslims are non violent. at that element in background they have been killing one yet another everywhere in the planet.

Answer 12

My dear friend,you are right.Who kept exact distance between sun and earth so that life can flourish.Who created innumerable galaxies in our universe?Who created innumerable universes. You know that if you want to go to nearest star named Alpha Major it will take 14 years with light year speed? Can you imagine how many stars are there? With these vastness on our earth very small insects like bacteria also live? Most people,including me believe in incarnation.Read Kaycee; life on net or in books.Ponder over all this.It is interesting.

Answer 13

We don't know if the big bang was the one and only start.



We only know it was the start of the universe as we now know it... we don't know what was there before it or what happened a kazillion years before it or anything.

Answer 14

The universe is one huge temporal loop. The 'end' of the universe is the big crunch and it all condenses back into a singularity and then some 'time' later it explodes again. This is how it has always been.



There now stop this religion vs science bullshit.

Answer 15

Where's the question again? Or is this your way of proclaiming you're a freelancer?

Answer 16

God hates ALL religions , without a relationship with your Creator Christ Jesus you spend eternity in Hell

Answer 17

Erm, the Big Bang has nothing to do with what started the universe, it's about what happened after it was started...

Answer 18

"I'm starting to think there might have been a creator anyway..."

Please! Share with us the evidence that makes you think this!



"I had the blankest mind an hour ago when I came across a very dynamic thought"

Yeah, that's typically how fantasy starts......



" I've not read verymuch into the physics of things..."

Oh, I see. You have no evidence, so, you want to make something up.....

Answer 19

scientists believe that there was nothing at first exept for antimatte in an antiuniverse



this anitmatter frequently in very short spaces of time would go in an out of being matter, each matter molecule balancing out another

however, by chance, there was one antimatter molecule (turned into matter) that did not have another paticle to balance it out, so it could turn back into antimatter

thus the big bang happened

for more info, study quantumn physics/mechanics

Answer 20

You will never know the answer to that question unless you read. Read science books, read the bible.

Answer 21

God IS the only logic my friend. I marvel His creation daily.

Answer 22

Allah (God) in Islam

Who is "Allah" and what is His nature?



The most fundamental belief that a Muslim has is that "There is only One God," the Creator, the Sustainer -- known in the Arabic language and by Muslims as Allah. Allah is not a foreign god, nor an idol. Arabic-speaking Christians use the same word for the Almighty.

The fundamental pillar of faith in Islam is to declare that "there is no deity worthy of worship except the One True Almighty God" (in Arabic: "La ilaha ill Allah").





God's Nature

In the Qur'an, we read that Allah is Compassionate and Merciful. He is Kind, Loving, and Wise. He is the Creator, the Sustainer, the Healer. He is the One who Guides, the One who Protects, the One who Forgives. There are traditionally ninety-nine names, or attributes, that Muslims use to describe Allah's nature.



A "Moon God"?

Some non-Muslims mistakenly think that Allah is an "Arab god," a "moon god," or some sort of idol. Allah is the proper name of the One True God, in the Arabic language used by Muslims all over the world. Allah is a name that is neither feminine nor masculine, and it cannot be made plural (unlike god, gods, goddess, etc). Muslims believe that there is nothing in the heavens nor on earth that deserves worship except Allah, the One True Creator.



Tawhid - The Unity of God

Islam is based on the concept of Tawhid, or Unity of God. Muslims are strictly monotheistic, and fiercely reject any attempt to make God visible or human. Islam rejects any form of idol worship, even if its intention is to get "closer" to God, and rejects the Trinity or any attempt to make God human.



Quotes From the Qur'an

"Say, 'He is Allah, the One;

Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;

He begets not, and neither is He begotten;

And there is nothing that can be compared to Him."

Qur'an 112:1-4

In Muslim understanding, God is beyond our sight and understanding, yet at the same time "nearer to us than our jugular vein" (Qur'an 50:16). Muslims pray directly to God, with no intermediary, and seek guidance from Him alone, because "...Allah knows well the secrets of your hearts" (Qur'an 5:7).



"When My servants ask thee concerning Me,

I am indeed close (to them).

I respond to the prayer of every suppliant

when he calls on Me.

Let them also, with a will,

Listen to My call, and believe in Me,

that they may walk in the right way."

Qur'an 2:186

In the Qur'an, people are asked to look around them for the signs of Allah in the natural world. The balance of the world, the rhythms of life, are "signs for those who would believe." The universe is in perfect order: the orbits of the planets, the cycles of life and death, the seasons of the year, the mountains and the rivers, the mysteries of the human body. This order and balance are not haphazard nor random. The world, and everything in it, has been created with a perfect plan, by the One who knows all.

Islam is a natural faith, a religion of responsibility, purpose, balance, discipline, and simplicity. To be a Muslim is to live your life remembering God and striving to follow His merciful guidance.





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It is a known fact that every language has one or more terms that are used in reference to God and sometimes to lesser deities. This is not the case with Allah. Allah is the personal name of the One true God. Nothing else can be called Allah. The term has no plural or gender. This shows its uniqueness when compared with the word "god," which can be made plural, as in "gods," or made feminine, as in "goddess." It is interesting to notice that Allah is the personal name of God in Aramaic, the language of Jesus and a sister language of Arabic.



The One true God is a reflection of the unique concept that Islam associates with God. To a Muslim, Allah is the Almighty Creator and Sustainer of the universe, Who is similar to nothing, and nothing is comparable to Him. The Prophet Muhammad was asked by his contemporaries about Allah; the answer came directly from God Himself in the form of a short chapter of the Qur'an, which is considered to be the essence of the unity or the motto of monotheism. This is chapter 112, which reads:“ In the name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate. Say (O Muhammad), He is God, the One God, the Everlasting Refuge, who has not begotten, nor has been begotten, and equal to Him is not anyone”.



Some non-Muslims allege that God in Islam is a stern and cruel God who demands to be obeyed fully and is not loving and kind. Nothing could be farther from the truth than this allegation. It is enough to know that, with the exception of one, each of the 114 chapters of the Qur'an begins with the verse " In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate". In one of the sayings of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), we are told that “ God is more loving and kind than a mother to her dear child”.

Answer 23

this is hilarious.